Chiefs Haley changes WR coach - Page 5

LaChapelle · 10-15-2009, 05:25 PM

Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley has made another staff change, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson.

Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006.

Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday.

“Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision making are trying to find a way to get things right,’’ wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done.

“But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.’’

Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference.

“They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),’’ Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) . . . where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays and plays to build on for those guys and for us.

“Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.’’

Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring.

The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start.

But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in a recent game against the Giants.

The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason.

Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game.

Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped.

Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach.

Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way.

“In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,’’ Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability.

“So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.’’

Posted on Thu, Oct. 15, 2009 05:41 PM

Christofire · 10-15-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

Ok, but I hope he envisions Krumrie on the unemployment line while he's at it.

LOL. Nicely done.

TEX · 10-15-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Haley is in so far over his head.

But he's partly to blame. He came to KC preaching his "22 men off the street" stuff and now he sees how really messed up things are.

TEX · 10-15-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Who's jumping off cliffs?

I want to go find a couple of mother****ers to push off cliffs, though.

This.

tonyetony · 10-15-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

But he's partly to blame. He came to KC preaching his "22 men off the street" stuff and now he sees how really messed up things are.

What the hell does he see in Goff and Niswanger? Those guys are the 22 guys off the street poster boys for Christ's sake.

Is Goff one of those 22 guys? If he is we're in for a ride.

TEX · 10-15-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

What the hell does he see in Goff and Niswanger? Those guys are the 22 guys off the street poster boys for Christ's sake.

Is Goff one of those 22 guys? If he is we're in for a ride.

Oh - I agree. That's why I said he's partly to blame. He and Pioli missed big time on evaluating talent or lack there of. It is what it is now...

DaWolf · 10-15-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Warrior5

So why is Krumrie still employed?

For some reason the guy is highly respected, and I think it has more to do with him as a player than as a coach. But I can think of two reasons:

1) There was no one significantly better available
2) Due to No 1, might as well pay him to work instead of pay him to sit at home

If the linemen don't show much more improvement this year, he could (should) be gone too...

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-15-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

just goes to show that this year MIGHT just be an audition year after all

Well if that's true Jason, One Arrowhead Drive should ****ING REFUND EVERY ****ING SEASON TICKET HOLDER THEIR MONEY.

And the rest of the games should be FREE.

If the Greatest Executive to live on Planet Earth since Caligula can't read the talent on this team within 9 months, then we're ****ED.

HoneyBadger · 10-15-2009, 11:52 PM

Now he just needs some WR's to coach

**BossChief** · 10-16-2009, 12:54 AM

Tim Krummrie and Richie Anderson are perfect prototypes of pro coaches, IMHO.

I know that isnt popular, but let me explai why that has been my take on Krummrie since day one, and Im sure Anderson will fit that mold.

They both excelled because of technique, desire and will power.

Krummrie was a 280 pound pro bowl nose tackle, and had the heart to come back from one of the most severe injuries ever in an extremely short amount of time because of his fire. Jared Allen OBVIOUSLY took to that, among others.

Anderson was a good reciever because of good routes and understanding his opponents.

It blows me away how many people slam the guy, when he has IMHO done VERY well with the limited (yet highly drafted) talent he has been given.

Look at the difference between Tank as a rookie and now.

Look at Jareds rush defense when he cam into the league and how refined he bacame as a pass rusher.

Dorsey is doing very well while playing out of his comfort zone because of coaching.

I feel Krummerie gets a raw deal on this, and other boards.

So far, the dline is a pleasant surprise imho.

Pioli Zombie · 10-16-2009, 04:54 AM

I wish Haley would fire the Head Coach next.
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Otter · 10-16-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by stlchiefs

I'm starting to wonder if Haley knows wtf he's doing or is he so emotional he just runs around changing things whenever something isn't going right. He doesn't necessarily fix the problem, but simply tries something new. I've never seen anything like the firings and carousel roster moves that have taken place this year.

I wonder if Chief fans know what the **** they are talking about.

He inherited many these guys, coaches and players, and he's evaluating them on the fly to determine who belongs where and who doesn't belong there at all while trying to win a game or two in the process.

The whole place is five games out from a 20 year regime that varied from mediocrity to pure shit. There's no magical NFL pixie dust to sprinkle on the team and make it all unicorns and smiles.

If this shit's going on this time next season you'll have a reason to bitch. Right now however, it's pure short sighted, lack of comprehension of what the new staff is dealing with this season.

keg in kc · 10-16-2009, 07:58 AM

People aren't used to seeing change in KC. When things weren't working on previous coaching staffs, they might (emphasis on "might") replace some coaches in the offseason. Is it a little extreme maybe? Sure, but the team's also extremely bad. The way I look at it, I'm encouraged they're at least they're willing to try different things. Maybe now we won't have to worry about sitting through the tenured failure of the next Greg Robinson or Gunther Cunningham.

And it's not like it can actually hurt anything at this point.

Otter · 10-16-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well if that's true Jason, One Arrowhead Drive should ****ING REFUND EVERY ****ING SEASON TICKET HOLDER THEIR MONEY.

And the rest of the games should be FREE.

If the Greatest Executive to live on Planet Earth since Caligula can't read the talent on this team within 9 months, then we're ****ED.

For you Dane...I think you're mad because Pioli may have a bigger ego than you...and that angers and maybe even scares you a little Dane...doens't it?

Wanna talk about it big guy? My PM door is always open.

Otter · 10-16-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

People aren't used to seeing change in KC. When things weren't working on previous coaching staffs, they might (emphasis on "might") replace some coaches in the offseason. Is it a little extreme maybe? Sure, but the team's also extremely bad. The way I look at it, I'm encouraged they're at least they're willing to try different things. Maybe now we won't have to worry about sitting through the tenured failure of the next Greg Robinson or Gunther Cunningham.

And it's not like it can actually hurt anything at this point.

How quickly we forget the likes of Mike Stock and Dick Curl.

Mr. Laz · 10-16-2009, 09:42 AM

Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

Dedric Ward (left) and Richie Anderson

Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley made another staff change this week, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson.

Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006.

Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday.

“Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision-making are trying to find a way to get things right,” wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done.
“But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.”

Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference.
“They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),” Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) … where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays, and plays to build on for those guys and for us.

“Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.”

Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring.

The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start.

But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in their Oct. 4 game against the Giants.
The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason.

Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game.
Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped.
Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach.

Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way.

“In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,” Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability.

“So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.”

To reach Adam Teicher, call 816-234-4875 or send e-mail to [email protected]

10-15-2009, 05:25 PM
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Haley changes WR coach Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley has made another staff change, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson. Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006. Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday. “Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision making are trying to find a way to get things right,’’ wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done. “But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.’’ Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference. “They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),’’ Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) . . . where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays and plays to build on for those guys and for us. “Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.’’ Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring. The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start. But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in a recent game against the Giants. The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason. Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game. Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped. Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach. Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way. “In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,’’ Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability. “So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.’’ Posted on Thu, Oct. 15, 2009 05:41 PM
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1785912	Tim Krummrie and Richie Anderson are perfect prototypes of pro coaches, IMHO. I know that isnt popular, but let me explai why that has been my take on Krummrie since day one, and Im sure Anderson will fit that mold. They both excelled because of technique, desire and will power. Krummrie was a 280 pound pro bowl nose tackle, and had the heart to come back from one of the most severe injuries ever in an extremely short amount of time because of his fire. Jared Allen OBVIOUSLY took to that, among others. Anderson was a good reciever because of good routes and understanding his opponents. It blows me away how many people slam the guy, when he has IMHO done VERY well with the limited (yet highly drafted) talent he has been given. Look at the difference between Tank as a rookie and now. Look at Jareds rush defense when he cam into the league and how refined he bacame as a pass rusher. Dorsey is doing very well while playing out of his comfort zone because of coaching. I feel Krummerie gets a raw deal on this, and other boards. So far, the dline is a pleasant surprise imho. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Dedric Ward (left) and Richie Anderson Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley made another staff change this week, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson. Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006. Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday. “Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision-making are trying to find a way to get things right,” wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done. “But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.” Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference. “They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),” Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) … where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays, and plays to build on for those guys and for us. “Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.” Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring. The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start. But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in their Oct. 4 game against the Giants. The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason. Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game. Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped. Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach. Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way. “In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,” Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability. “So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.” To reach Adam Teicher, call 816-234-4875 or send e-mail to [email protected] __________________
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