Vrabel and Hali are studs!

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

From what I have read in this thread, Allen got 11 sacks that year. Tamba is on track to at least come close to that and I think everyone will agree that Allen is the better talent. But that shows that Tamba is not a bust and is playing solidly this year in a new position.

Not that I care, it is fun watching you guys go back and forth. But you have to keep your arguments clean.

I never opined on Hali. I was only arguing against Sensible's claim that Allen developed only when Boone and Hali came aboard.

To go back. I liked the Hali draft pick. I think a team can win a championship with him at LDE as long as you have a strong RDE. I think he's a solid 43 lineman.

I think he's exceeding the expectations of 99% of this board (myself included) with his play at OLB. All that being said, I still think he's more of a complimentary player than a "cornerstone". Even if he puts up 9 sacks this year, I still don't view him as the difference maker that Allen is/was. I think offenses game plan around Allen. I don't think they do it for Hali, and I'm fairly certain Pioli is going to try to draft that cornerstone pass rusher within the first two rounds next year.