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Old 11-24-2009, 06:48 AM  
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White is Right?

I have thought about this topic often and see the discussions come and go. Why are an overwhelming majority of NFL QB's white? There is no other sport that I can think of where a single position is dominated by a certain race. I understand that individual sports are saturated with certain races but I think QB in the NFL is unique. You don't see Asians overpopulating the pitchers mound in the MLB or Hispanics holding down the power forward position in the NBA, so why Caucasians and the QB position?

Is it ideological, i.e. "Owners want white QB's to rep the franchise, White QB's usually come from a rich neighborhood and had a better opportunity to learn how to lead" etc.

or

Biological? "White guys have an extra tendon in their throwing arm, Black players are naturally faster so they run more than throw which leaves them at a disadvantage" or some crazy stuff like that.

What do you think?

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Old 11-24-2009, 09:09 AM   #31
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:15 AM   #32
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I really think it has a lot to do with the socioeconomic status of the person growing up.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:15 AM   #33
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:15 AM   #34
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Maybe it just has to do with kids idolizing certain players, and wanting to play that position. I don't think it has to do with race, more so if your a white kid growing up, the only real glamor position that you see white guys at is either linebacker, or quarterback. So maybe you grow up wanting to be the next Montana, or Elway back in the day.

If your a black kid, the glamor spots are running back and wide receiver, and you emulate the black guys. I don't think it has anything to do with race, so much as you naturally relate to the guy that looks like you when your younger. Coaches also had allot to do with it, most coaches back in the day would naturally place players at certain positions based on race, whether sub consciously or not.

Now your starting to see allot of that changing. There are more white wide receivers popping up and white running backs, along with more black quarterbacks. This is because these kids maybe didn't see race as much , or the culture of sports changed, so that Coaches didn't automatically place kids at positions based on race.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:17 AM   #35
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The quarterback position follows money. Dad pays for camps, one-on-one training, and every video on the market. Plus, I've seen money influence who gets to start and get the most reps in practice.

The inner city kids (white also) spend their time developing athleticism by playing basketball, baseball, football, steal the hubcap, etc... They develop speed, hand eye coordination, leaping abilities, shiftiness, lateral speed, etc... that translate better to other positions.

Of course, there are exceptions and this is just my generalization.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:18 AM   #36
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The quarterback position follows money. Dad pays for camps, one-on-one training, and every video on the market. Plus, I've seen money influence who gets to start and get the most reps in practice.

The inner city kids (white also) spend their time developing athleticism by playing basketball, baseball, football, steal the hubcap, etc... They develop speed, hand eye coordination, leaping abilities, shiftiness, lateral speed, etc... that translate better to other positions.

Of course, there are exceptions and this is just my generalization.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:21 AM   #37
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Maybe it just has to do with kids idolizing certain players, and wanting to play that position. I don't think it has to do with race, more so if your a white kid growing up, the only real glamor position that you see white guys at is either linebacker, or quarterback. So maybe you grow up wanting to be the next Montana, or Elway back in the day.

If your a black kid, the glamor spots are running back and wide receiver, and you emulate the black guys. I don't think it has anything to do with race, so much as you naturally relate to the guy that looks like you when your younger. Coaches also had allot to do with it, most coaches back in the day would naturally place players at certain positions based on race, whether sub consciously or not.

Now your starting to see allot of that changing. There are more white wide receivers popping up and white running backs, along with more black quarterbacks. This is because these kids maybe didn't see race as much , or the culture of sports changed, so that Coaches didn't automatically place kids at positions based on race.
Is it just me, or did your entire explanation have to do with race? Stating that white kids stick to "white positions" seems like a racial explanation to me. And that's completely ok.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:22 AM   #38
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Ah hell yeah

Let's turn this into a Chris Rock comedy sketch.

Black people do this, white people do that. I wish my dick was black so it would be larger.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:31 AM   #39
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The quarterback position follows money. Dad pays for camps, one-on-one training, and every video on the market. Plus, I've seen money influence who gets to start and get the most reps in practice.

The inner city kids (white also) spend their time developing athleticism by playing basketball, baseball, football, steal the hubcap, etc... They develop speed, hand eye coordination, leaping abilities, shiftiness, lateral speed, etc... that translate better to other positions.

Of course, there are exceptions and this is just my generalization.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:39 AM   #40
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(Shrug.) My favorite football player as a kid was Otis Taylor, and I wanted to be a wide receiver. Then as I got older I realized that defense was where it was at, and Deron Cherry was my favorite player. It wasn't about race, it was about the guys wearing red who were playing the most fun positions. Am I the exception?
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:51 AM   #41
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Ah hell yeah

Let's turn this into a Chris Rock comedy sketch.

Black people do this, white people do that. I wish my dick was black so it would be larger.
Yeah but you don't want to be the black guy with the small penis.....because then you REALLY get ****ed with.

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Is it just me, or did your entire explanation have to do with race? Stating that white kids stick to "white positions" seems like a racial explanation to me. And that's completely ok.

No, I was saying that the older generation of players , and coaches the ones who grew up or coached in the 70`s and 80`s might have idolized their players by race, or subconsciously or consciously automatically placed certain players at positions by race..that would mean that more white kids started off playing pee wee ball at quarterback and more black kids at running back and wide receiver.

The kids growing up in the 90`s and new 00`s didn't see race so much. Also the coaches approach changed, allowing more kids opportunities and different positions, and not automatically placed by race, that was my point.

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Old 11-24-2009, 10:06 AM   #43
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:11 AM   #44
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Why?


I believe a more compelling thought was the fact that the NFL is largely African American and the "most important" player on most NFL teams is white.

I have to admit that the kicker thing through me off... Where are all the black kickers?
Where are all the white Corner backs, or Running backs?
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:13 AM   #45
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Are there more black QB's than white RB's?
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