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Old 11-24-2009, 06:48 AM  
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I have thought about this topic often and see the discussions come and go. Why are an overwhelming majority of NFL QB's white? There is no other sport that I can think of where a single position is dominated by a certain race. I understand that individual sports are saturated with certain races but I think QB in the NFL is unique. You don't see Asians overpopulating the pitchers mound in the MLB or Hispanics holding down the power forward position in the NBA, so why Caucasians and the QB position?

Is it ideological, i.e. "Owners want white QB's to rep the franchise, White QB's usually come from a rich neighborhood and had a better opportunity to learn how to lead" etc.

or

Biological? "White guys have an extra tendon in their throwing arm, Black players are naturally faster so they run more than throw which leaves them at a disadvantage" or some crazy stuff like that.

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Old 11-24-2009, 11:02 AM   #61
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Sporting Events that Blacks tend to stay away from...

Golf - Minus Tiger Woods, Vijay and maybe a couple others, whom Tiger ironically is the best golfer ever, but for the most part this sport is 99.99999% white

Bowling - I can't really name anymore than 2-3 pro bowlers, but I've never seen blacks at a bowling alley unless they were with some of their white friends.

Swimming - like I said in my previous post, from what I've seen blacks aren't very good swimmers, though in HS state swimming championships there was this black kid from a STL school that was VERY fast in the 50 free. Swam like a High 21 sec 50 free.

NASCAR - (Unless you're Lamanjio Smith, who won the Kenyan 600 - Anyone who hasn't heard the Mr. Bergis NASCAR prank phone call needs to Youtube it, language NSFW, and there are racial slurs but it's absolutely hilarious.) NASCAR's isn't really a sport. It's just a competition/event.

Hockey - Besides that Florida Panthers player listed above, I've never seen a black hockey player. Unless you count Manute Bol

Then you can also add just about any Winter Olympics event, though you can add the fact that blacks are in just about EVERY summer olympics event......face it.....Blacks hate the cold weather. There aren't any black ice skaters (unless they're female I guess, but I can't remember of any off the top of my head but then again I don't watch figure skating at all)
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:21 AM   #62
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:28 AM   #63
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(Shrug.) My favorite football player as a kid was Otis Taylor, and I wanted to be a wide receiver. Then as I got older I realized that defense was where it was at, and Deron Cherry was my favorite player. It wasn't about race, it was about the guys wearing red who were playing the most fun positions. Am I the exception?
No, at least I don't think so. I wanted to be Curly Culp or Buck Buchanan.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:51 AM   #64
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No, at least I don't think so. I wanted to be Curly Culp or Buck Buchanan.
I wanted to be Arnold Morgado.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:52 AM   #65
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Maybe it's just not a position of interest. It's not flashy, although it's very important. I find it hard to believe that leg strength and accuracy are something that only white people have, so I'd guess it's just not a "sexy" thing to do. If you have athletic ability, then why be a kicker?

There are a lot of black soccer players, so it does seem weird that there are not more black kickers in any level of football. I've never seen one in PeeWee, High School or College, much less the pros.
Athletic black people have too much talent to be wasted on just kicking balls.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:54 AM   #66
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90% of the players are black and this is the question you came up with?
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:58 AM   #67
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Racial diversity is difficult to determine, I mean sure, you've got statistics that are always going to point in a certain direction, and maybe the trend IS that most QBs are "white", but by exemplifying it to the extent of questioning actual diversity is antithetical to our supposed movement towards ending racial supremacy.

When we begin to regard ourselves as human beings as opposed to "white" or "colored", I'll appreciate our capacity for integrity.
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Old 11-24-2009, 11:59 AM   #68
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The demographics of football are definitely interesting. Its a discussion worth having, as to the why it occurs the way it does. I think the Quarterback affluence example fits the best. Access to quality coaches can transform people and help overcome that affluence factor, but definitely affluence is a factor. However.. my favorite Quarter-back is definitely Steve McNair. He did things athetically that noone else did, and was the best gamer on the field. He came to play, and was very admirable. His success from his Mississippi back-ground is kind of an anomoly in the affluence argument.
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:00 PM   #69
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(Shrug.) My favorite football player as a kid was Otis Taylor, and I wanted to be a wide receiver. Then as I got older I realized that defense was where it was at, and Deron Cherry was my favorite player. It wasn't about race, it was about the guys wearing red who were playing the most fun positions. Am I the exception?


I wanted to be Otis Taylor or Lou Brock or Earl Monroe. They looked to coolest doing what they did.
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:06 PM   #70
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90% of the players are black and this is the question you came up with?
That's kind of the point of the question. It's not completely clear from the OP, but later he points out that the majority of NFL players are black so the fact that a single position is mostly white seems different than in other sports where one race dominates (e.g. blacks in basketball or whites in swimming).
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:06 PM   #71
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I wanted to be Otis Taylor or Lou Brock or Earl Monroe. They looked to coolest doing what they did.
Otis Taylor, Lou Brock and Bob Gibson for me. This is circa Springfield, mo. 1968 or so. I rememeber kids asking me why is your favorite pitcher a black guy. I told them why should I care? Whats that got do do with his pitching? My first lesson in race preception. I remember thinking who gives a chit that he is black.
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Otis Taylor, Lou Brock and Bob Gibson for me. This is circa Springfield, mo. 1968 or so. I rememeber kids asking me why is your favorite pitcher a black guy. I told them why should I care? Whats that got do do with his pitching? My first lesson in race preception. I remember thinking who gives a chit that he is black.


Most of my favorite athletes growing up were black, probably because I admired speed and aspired to play the games the way they did. Gibson was my favorite pitcher, but I never wanted to be a pitcher. Pitching was dull to me. I wanted to play positions that rewarded speed and good hands.

Those were good days to be a Chiefs and Cardinals fan, huh?
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I have thought about this topic often and see the discussions come and go. Why are an overwhelming majority of NFL QB's white? There is no other sport that I can think of where a single position is dominated by a certain race. I understand that individual sports are saturated with certain races but I think QB in the NFL is unique. You don't see Asians overpopulating the pitchers mound in the MLB or Hispanics holding down the power forward position in the NBA, so why Caucasians and the QB position?

Is it ideological, i.e. "Owners want white QB's to rep the franchise, White QB's usually come from a rich neighborhood and had a better opportunity to learn how to lead" etc.

or

Biological? "White guys have an extra tendon in their throwing arm, Black players are naturally faster so they run more than throw which leaves them at a disadvantage" or some crazy stuff like that.

What do you think?

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Old 11-24-2009, 12:17 PM   #75
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I've never been able to figure out why the majority of defensive linemen seems to be African American and the majority of offensive linemen seems to be white.
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