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Old 12-16-2009, 03:26 PM   #1
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:34 PM   #2
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:35 PM   #3
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There are two types of Chiefsplanet forum members:

1. The type of fan who lives in Reality. They see the franchise as it exists outside of the vacuum. They see poor ownership, poor coaching, poor personnel decisions and no direction. They see the flaws and point them out.

2. The type of fan who lives in Fantasy. Regardless of the fact that the Chiefs haven't won a meaningful game in 40 years, missed the playoffs for 15 straight years and haven't won a playoff game in 16 years, the Chiefs can do NO wrong.

I just hope that the Chiefs cheerleaders in Fantasy Land are much hotter than they are in reality.
we backed into the playoffs in 2006 dumbass

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Old 12-16-2009, 03:37 PM   #4
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we backed into the playoffs in 2006 dumbass

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Um, I was referring to the period from 1971 to 1986, when the Chiefs missed the playoffs for 15 straight years.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:45 PM   #5
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I didn't.

Your assertion that Maclin would be wasted (and thus a poor pick?) is ridiculous. Cassel's poor play should not influence a draft pick, unless it's to get another QB.
It is far from ridiculous my friend. What good is it to draft a playmaking WR that his specialty is speed when we just traded for and signed to a long deal a qb that struggles mightily with the deep ball? If I was gonna take a WR last year, Crabtree would have been a much better fit. Just sayin...

If Tyson Jackson ends up being a elite (top three) 3-4 end, the pick is justified in my view. It was far from my preference for the pick, but its not a wasted pick like people make it out to be.

I cant believe I have spent this much time defending a GM that I dont personally like...
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:51 PM   #6
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Um, I was referring to the period from 1971 to 1986, when the Chiefs missed the playoffs for 15 straight years.
I know, I know.

Hence the (I know, I know) in my post.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:09 PM   #7
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It is far from ridiculous my friend. What good is it to draft a playmaking WR that his specialty is speed when we just traded for and signed to a long deal a qb that struggles mightily with the deep ball? If I was gonna take a WR last year, Crabtree would have been a much better fit. Just sayin...

If Tyson Jackson ends up being a elite (top three) 3-4 end, the pick is justified in my view. It was far from my preference for the pick, but its not a wasted pick like people make it out to be.

I cant believe I have spent this much time defending a GM that I dont personally like...
I don't think that limiting the offensive weapons to what the present QB is comfortable with or capable of is a very good long term plan for building a great football team.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:21 PM   #8
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I don't think that limiting the offensive weapons to what the present QB is comfortable with or capable of is a very good long term plan for building a great football team.
Why?

That doesn't make sense.

Are you saying that Maclin will be a better player and more valuable to his teams success than Crabtree? If so, its ok, I do disagree though.

You can watch Crabtree play and he has that "it" factor.

I think he will be a all pro.

Maclin hasnt showed that so far. IMO
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:24 PM   #9
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Why?

That doesn't make sense.

Are you saying that Maclin will be a better player and more valuable to his teams success than Crabtree? If so, its ok, I do disagree though.

You can watch Crabtree play and he has that "it" factor.

I think he will be a all pro.

Maclin hasnt showed that so far. IMO
Yeah, a rookie receiver from a spread offense coming in and giving you a projected 60 catches, 5 TDs and 800 yards is really something to bitch about.
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Yeah, a rookie receiver from a spread offense coming in and giving you a projected 60 catches, 5 TDs and 800 yards is really something to bitch about.
They were both from spreads, its just one has a much bigger frame and the other is much faster/quicker

crabtree (Alex Smith/Shaun Hill)

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59.1 per game

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56.6 per game

They actually match up better than I thought.

Should be interesting to see how their careers play out, as it seems it may be more interesting than how our teams will...

I guess I just think that with Cassel obviously cemented in here for a couple more years, Crabtree could have done more for us, I may be wrong
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Why?

That doesn't make sense.

Are you saying that Maclin will be a better player and more valuable to his teams success than Crabtree? If so, its ok, I do disagree though.

You can watch Crabtree play and he has that "it" factor.

I think he will be a all pro.

Maclin hasnt showed that so far. IMO
They've lost more games with Crabtree than without Crabtree.
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They've lost more games with Crabtree than without Crabtree.
Yeah it's definately Crabtree thats causing the 49ers to lose more when he's played.


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Why?

That doesn't make sense.

Are you saying that Maclin will be a better player and more valuable to his teams success than Crabtree? If so, its ok, I do disagree though.

You can watch Crabtree play and he has that "it" factor.

I think he will be a all pro.

Maclin hasnt showed that so far. IMO
I'm not saying I prefer Maclin or Crabtree. I'm saying it's stupid to limit your WR choices to only fit your current QB's strengths.

You're asking them to dumb down or slow down the WRs they draft because at the moment we have a QB incapable of an accurate long ball. Well what happens if Cassel breaks his arm the first game and we insert a QB who prefers the long ball? Then we're stuck with a WR who can't beat his guy because we only signed slow receivers due to the last QB's ineptness.
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I'm not saying I prefer Maclin or Crabtree. I'm saying it's stupid to limit your WR choices to only fit your current QB's strengths.

You're asking them to dumb down or slow down the WRs they draft because at the moment we have a QB incapable of an accurate long ball. Well what happens if Cassel breaks his arm the first game and we insert a QB who prefers the long ball? Then we're stuck with a WR who can't beat his guy because we only signed slow receivers due to the last QB's ineptness.
ummmmm what?

Im saying you build to your strengths. Period.
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