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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

FloridaMan88 · 12-17-2009, 06:28 PM

This article is absolute horse shit. This makes the heaping pile of shit that is produced by Wargarbage Illustrated look like award winning journalism.

The guy who wrote this basically is arguing the Chiefs are married to Haley because he "deserves to grow into the job". I didn't realize the NFL had a rule that you can't fire a head coach who "deserves to grow into the job".

Did Miami break the "deserves to grow into the job" rule when they fired Cam Cameron after one season and ended up making the playoffs the very next season?

Perhaps the jackass who wrote this flaming pile of shit should ponder that fact.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

As I manager, I hate him. You don't need to look for anything: Trey Edwards is an incompetent sack of ****ing shit. A team cannot win a championship with him at the helm.

I feel the same way about Haley, at this point.

I'm merely using Hillman to point out the double standard that you're using.

I am not applying a double standard at all. In fact, I would say Hillman was worse cause he made stupid decisions while his team was in 1st place.

When the Chiefs are in 1st or in contention and Haley makes these same decisions then I will say you have a good point. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt to an extent that say we had been contending, we punt instead of fake the punt.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Did you two have a private conversation?

His in-game decisions have been below a Herm Edwards level all year. Besides dropping the F-bomb, it's Haley's recurring theme.

And then he sounds pretty cool on Mondays and all is forgiven.

Yes, we did. He sent me a text before the play.

KC Jones · 12-17-2009, 06:29 PM

If Haley loses out (and I think there's a pretty good chance of that), I'm not so sure he'll be back. I was in the Haley camp - I still think he might turn out to be a good coach someday. However he's ****ing awful at game management and it seems to me he let's his emotions dictate game time decisions. It's a recipe for crap salad.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones

If Haley loses out (and I think there's a pretty good chance of that), I'm not so sure he'll be back. I was in the Haley camp - I still think he might turn out to be a good coach someday. However he's ****ing awful at game management and it seems to me he let's his emotions dictate game time decisions. It's a recipe for crap salad.

I agree. But I think he is going to be given a chance to learn from his mistakes from Pioli. In Haley's defense though, his QB has not helped the game managment 1 iota.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Did you two have a private conversation?

His in-game decisions have been below a Herm Edwards level all year. Besides dropping the F-bomb, it's Haley's recurring theme.

And then he sounds pretty cool on Mondays and all is forgiven.

In all honesty.. I dont care what they do with Haley.... They can keep him or fire him... Makes me no nevermind.....

A franchise that can hire Herm ****ing Edwards it cant get any worse. We have seen the bottom... Nothing Haley can do will surprise me, nothing at all....

FloridaMan88 · 12-17-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones

If Haley loses out (and I think there's a pretty good chance of that), I'm not so sure he'll be back. I was in the Haley camp - I still think he might turn out to be a good coach someday. However he's ****ing awful at game management and it seems to me he let's his emotions dictate game time decisions. It's a recipe for crap salad.

The fact that Fat Scott and Haley are barely speaking can't be a good sign for Haley.

If the Chiefs crap all over themselves and lose to Cleveland at an empty Arrowhead Stadium drastic measures will be need to be taken this offseason.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

In all honesty.. I dont care what they do with Haley.... They can keep him or fire him... Makes me no nevermind.....

A franchise that can hire Herm ****ing Edwards it cant get any worse. We have seen the bottom... Nothing Haley can do will surprise me, nothing at all....

I myself tend to like Haley's style. He needs to mature, sure. But I like it better than Herm.

He is no different than other coaches really. He was a successfull OC when he had the talent to be successfull. Right now he has a 60 mil $ backup QB, a shit line and a defense that forgets to show up.

That being said, he ran LJ out of here and that earns him another year.

ncCHIEFfan · 12-17-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Except that Herm took his first team to the playoffs and lost at Oakland.

Haley? Well, considering the stupid shit he's pulled this season, I'm shocked he's got three wins.

But he does have 3 wins. I think Haley is gonna be a great coach!!!

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

The fact that Fat Scott and Haley are barely speaking can't be a good sign for Haley.

If the Chiefs crap all over themselves and lose to Cleveland at an empty Arrowhead Stadium drastic measures will be need to be taken this offseason.

And you know this is fact from where?

Please tell me you have connections inside of the organization???

**MahiMike** · 12-17-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You know why?

BECAUSE IT'S ****ING STUPID! NO ONE EXPECTS AN NFL HEAD COACH TO RUN A FAKE PUNT FROM HIS OWN 28 YARD LINE IN THE NFL!

And in case you missed it, it didn't work and gave the Broncos an EASY score.

That's why I loved it. Nobody expects it! I hate the status quo coaches.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ncCHIEFfan

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But he does have 3 wins. I think Haley is gonna be a great coach!!!

He also has the running game looking better than it has in the last couple years. Yes, a lot of that has to do with Charles.

**petegz28** · 12-17-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

That's why I loved it. Nobody expects it! I hate the status quo coaches.

By all means lets run a fake where a coach would fully expect it.

**MahiMike** · 12-17-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Crunch

Is it wrong that I want the Browns to completely destroy them this Sunday?

This is a banable offense.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

He also has the running game looking better than it has in the last couple years. Yes, a lot of that has to do with Charles.

But not coaching?

12-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Boyceofsummer That Doyle, he's a mean-un Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Salina, Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley http://fwix.com/share/55_c6b76c6022 Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley by Matt Conner Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite. My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season. It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch. More after the jump: Star-divide Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach. Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold. We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.
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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-777094	This article is absolute horse shit. This makes the heaping pile of shit that is produced by Wargarbage Illustrated look like award winning journalism. The guy who wrote this basically is arguing the Chiefs are married to Haley because he "deserves to grow into the job". I didn't realize the NFL had a rule that you can't fire a head coach who "deserves to grow into the job". Did Miami break the "deserves to grow into the job" rule when they fired Cam Cameron after one season and ended up making the playoffs the very next season? Perhaps the jackass who wrote this flaming pile of shit should ponder that fact.
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KC Jones Genious Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $10012761	If Haley loses out (and I think there's a pretty good chance of that), I'm not so sure he'll be back. I was in the Haley camp - I still think he might turn out to be a good coach someday. However he's ****ing awful at game management and it seems to me he let's his emotions dictate game time decisions. It's a recipe for crap salad.
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