Chiefs Screw you Cassel - Page 15

chiefs1111 · 12-13-2009, 03:06 PM

I know Chambers still has too catch that pass but Cassel was awful today. Screw you Matt,Screw you!!!!!!!

milkman · 12-20-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep totally agree. Last year Cassel had 63% accuracy this year it is 54%. Which one is the real Matt Cassel? Time will only tell.

I think it's a combination.

Cassel still isn't showing any comfort and confidence consistently in a pro set.

**SAUTO** · 12-20-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

In watching that game, I would put two of the drops solely on the WR or TE that dropped them.

The rest were in part due to a poorly thrown ball.

Catchable, yes, but not easy.

Two that stand out was one to Bowe than was thrown high, and wobbled more than any pass that I think I've ever seen.
It should have been caught, but it would have been a good catch.

The second was the ball in the back of the end zone to a double teamed Copper.
One defender got his hands between between Copper's.
Had Copper caught it, it would have been an outstanding catch bordering on spectacular.

the two you talked about were the two i would say werent drops, how about bowe in the endzone? more than two were on the wrs hands
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TRR · 12-20-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Stop generalizing the fanbase, because as I've said many times before the whole issue that year was the WR's learning the Saunders' system. Thus running wrong routes due to the complexities of the scheme.

Either way, nobody was claiming he was accurate. You don't throw 24 INT's in a season, and have people say I don't care he's accurate.

You may have believed it was ALL on the WR's and that's fine. I believe this season is on the WR's and O Line for Cassel's lackluster play. Either way, its hard to prove that's the case.

Like I've said all season. You can't judge Cassel on this season just like you couldn't judge Green on his first season in KC. It takes time and consistency.
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Hammock Parties · 12-20-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

In watching that game, I would put two of the drops solely on the WR or TE that dropped them.

The rest were in part due to a poorly thrown ball.

Yup. Basically, you can't blame the drops on Cassel...because pro wide receivers are supposed to make those catches.

But, it's pretty obvious a more accurate quarterback would contribute to fewer drops.

Chief Pote · 12-20-2009, 08:14 PM

If you think the offense is the problem...think again. Some half baked RB on the "Clowns" broke a hall of famers record. Jim Brown wants a piece of this ****in defense.

Mecca · 12-20-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

I normally agree with the majority of your posts, but not this round. Trent had a FAR superior offensive line, Priest Holmes to lure in defenses and catch passes out of the backfield, a HOF TE in his prime, and Kennison to stretch the field with his speed. You're comparing apples to oranges if you think Cassell is even on an even playing field.

Guess it's what you like but since Charles has been playing Cassel has had a running game.

Green had a better line better backs and a better TE but nothing outside we literally had the worst WR's in the league during his tenure.

milkman · 12-20-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Matt Cassel's play was the least of the Chiefs problems today. The offensive line protected very well. I thought Alleman was an upgrade over Waters and Richardson has really developed in practice as a good option at right tackle. It may have been the opponent but he looked much better than O'Callaghan.

The Chiefs need a least two reliable receivers and consistent blocking before Cassel can be accurately judged. One week (or two in a row), he looks like total ass, then follows it up with a decent performance like today. If his receivers hadn't dropped half of everything thrown their way, it may have been a different day.

Oh, and I sure am glad that Cottam has been sitting on the bench all year.

O'Connell's a joke. Two seven round picks for THAT guy?

When I broke down Richardson's play in the preseason, I said he looked like a guy that could develop and man the position for years to come, and was met with derision for the most part.

When I got pissed and melted down because they cut Richardson and only claimed Ryan OCallaghan off waivers to replace him, I was lambasted.

Ryan O'Callaghan is a srcub.
Richardosn is a guy with real potential.

I said it then.

They are showing I was right.

**dirk digler** · 12-20-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

In watching that game, I would put two of the drops solely on the WR or TE that dropped them.

The rest were in part due to a poorly thrown ball.

Catchable, yes, but not easy.

Two that stand out was one to Bowe than was thrown high, and wobbled more than any pass that I think I've ever seen.
It should have been caught, but it would have been a good catch.

The second was the ball in the back of the end zone to a double teamed Copper.
One defender got his hands between between Copper's.
Had Copper caught it, it would have been an outstanding catch bordering on spectacular.

Thanks. Listening to Len he was going off on the Bowe drop in the end zone I don't know if that is the one you are talking about here and the Pope drop in the end zone.

Mecca · 12-20-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

When I broke down Richardson's play in the preseason, I said he looked like a guy that could develop and man the position for years to come, and was met with derision for the most part.

When I got pissed and melted down because they cut Richardson and only claimed Ryan OCallaghan off waivers to replace him, I was lambasted.

Ryan O'Callaghan is a srcub.
Richardosn is a guy with real potential.

I said it then.

They are showing I was right.

And that is why there is a serious question about this front offices ability to evaluate talent.

milkman · 12-20-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

the two you talked about were the two i would say werent drops, how about bowe in the endzone? more than two were on the wrs hands
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I would have to watch the game again, but as I said, in watching today, I saw two drops that I would put solely on the WR.

TRR · 12-20-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thanks. Listening to Len he was going off on the Bowe drop in the end zone I don't know if that is the one you are talking about here and the Pope drop in the end zone.

Bowe dropped two balls in the endzone. One early, one late. One was dropped by Pope as well.

Were they perfect throws? No. But if Bowe wants to claim that he is "The Show"...he needs to make catches like that.
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milkman · 12-20-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Yup. Basically, you can't blame the drops on Cassel...because pro wide receivers are supposed to make those catches.

But, it's pretty obvious a more accurate quarterback would contribute to fewer drops.

Again, Cassel's accuracy on the short to intermediate routes were not an issue last year.

I don't think that Cassel is ever going to be great.

I do think he has the tools to be a game manager.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-20-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Bowe dropped two balls in the endzone. One early, one late. One was dropped by Pope as well.

Were they perfect throws? No. But if Bowe wants to claim that he is "The Show"...he needs to make catches like that.
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Regarding the one to Pope...

I hope you're not talking about the one later in the game, where the defender hooked LP's left arm, and the ball was thrown back-shoulder.

I don't know anyone that's gonna catch a ball one handed when it's on his back (other) shoulder.

Coach · 12-20-2009, 08:25 PM

I know that O'Connell had two legitimate drops that really made some people upset. I even suggested that why are thy having O'Connell on the field, when Cottam has been showing great flashes on catching the ball and getting decent YAC.

**doomy3** · 12-20-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Regarding the one to Pope...

I hope you're not talking about the one later in the game, where the defender hooked LP's left arm, and the ball was thrown back-shoulder.

I don't know anyone that's gonna catch a ball one handed when it's on his back (other) shoulder.

Yeah, he had no shot at that. Dude had his arm in a lock.

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