Chiefs ESPN - Crennel likely to join Chiefs - Page 13

Shag · 01-03-2010, 10:30 AM

Schefter just mentioned on ESPN Sunday Countdown that Romeo Crennel was likely to join the Chiefs as DC this offseason. Nothing concrete (or necessarily surprising), but interesting nonetheless...

CHIEFS58 · 01-03-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Fanatic

I'm not sure I get this. Didn't everything ESPN reported about Leach turn out to be true?

Leach was dealing with a spoiled bitch of a kid.

I would have him coach my team any day.

**DeezNutz** · 01-03-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

5-11 is a good started. 4-12 is actually a good start.

And, most importantly, improved coaching would have obviated any discussion about whether or not there has been progress.

This off-season, I stated multiple times that we could win only 5 games in 2009 and be a VASTLY improved team.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-03-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This a ****ing asinine point to make. Same thing is often said by Chiefs fans about Herm.

Dude was a poor HC for a number of different reasons, and his demeanor would be at the bottom of the list, if listed at all.

Yes, there are a number of reasons. He was an offensive dipshit (see Quinn vs. Derek Anderson QB controversy). As a Head Coach, he was a lot less involved with pure defensive coaching (see Gregg Williams, Dick Lebeau, Marvin Lewis, Mike Nolan). He didn't have the leadership qualities to be a good head coach (see Ron Rivera and Al Saunders, two terrific coordinators who nobody will hire to be a head coach)--and yes, that goes toward his demeanor.

A long line of really good defensive coordinators have made lousy head coaches. We don't have evidence that he'll be a good DC outside of Bellichick. I just don't understand why so many people are building a case that he'll be a bad one based on what he did in an entirely different role in Cleveland.

Titty Meat · 01-03-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And, most importantly, improved coaching would have obviated any discussion about whether or not there has been progress.

This off-season, I stated multiple times that we could win only 5 games in 2009 and be a VASTLY improved team.

And you would probably say this team isn't imrpoved over last years and I would agree but I suppose the only category that matters is the Win column.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-03-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Haley or no Haley the team has very little talent. We focus too much on coaching. what really matters is the players. bottomline.

WHY does this team have little talent?

Could it be because the Executive of the Decade brought in over 45 new players this year, and all but 2 have sucked?

All the talent on this team comes from previous regimes.

Look at recent Patriots drafts and give me a reason why you think things will be any different in KC.

**DeezNutz** · 01-03-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Haley or no Haley the team has very little talent. We focus too much on coaching. what really matters is the players. bottomline.

Well, this team, allegedly, has some legit talent.

1. A "franchise" QB, hand picked by the GM.
2. A RB who has been second only to Chris Johnson (once LJ essentially cut himself--thanks Haley/Pioli for playing the right guy from the start!).
3. A stud CB.
4. A very talented, yet inconsistent WR.
5. Two top-5 picks on the D line.
6. A "cornerstone" in Hali.
7. A legit LT (when he isn't playing at 300 ****ing lbs.--thanks, coach!).

If we had focused on improving the o-line and had half-way decent coaching on D, while utilizing our most talented players, we win at least 2 more games this year.

I'd say the coaching was a pretty big issue.

KC kid · 01-03-2010, 01:49 PM

WPI is still reporting that we are going to get Cowher. . . of course.

Titty Meat · 01-03-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

WHY does this team have little talent?

Could it be because the Executive of the Decade brought in over 45 new players this year, and all but 2 have sucked?

All the talent on this team comes from previous regimes.

Look at recent Patriots drafts and give me a reason why you think things will be any different in KC.

But everyone said Pioli wasn't in charge of the draft it was Dmitroff and Belichek signed off on everything?

**dirk digler** · 01-03-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

They think bcause someone failed somewhere else, they are horrible. Would anyone really have wanted BB after his stint in Cleveland? Sometimes i dont know what the **** people are thinking. The ****ed up thing about it, that in football when you are negative, your going to be more right then wrong because only a few teams actually succeed and what 70 percent of the teams arent that good.

Yep. Dick Labeau is a perfect example. Great D-coordinator, got a job as head coach and sucked balls and then went back to D-coordinator and won a couple of Super Bowls.

On a side note I was doing a quick read about Belichick's stint in Cleveland. The funny part was he was the offensive coordinator for 3 years along with being a head coach.

kcxiv · 01-03-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This team would still suck, overall, but a high-quality HC wins us at least 2 more games this season. People are under-estimating how bad Haley has been this season, often simply b/c he's not Herm.

But it's not like 5-11 is really worth bragging about.

i am not so sure we win many more games with another head coach. Talent wise we are that bad. This team is like a ****ing pick and pull with its players. We have other peoples parts they didnt want anymore, but sometimes you find a good part. lol

Titty Meat · 01-03-2010, 01:52 PM

Tylerthigpen!1! jfc all you do is bitch and moan. you never post anything constructive

lol

**dirk digler** · 01-03-2010, 01:54 PM

For the people that don't like the choice of Crennel who is going to be available that would be your choice as DC?

eazyb81 · 01-03-2010, 01:56 PM

This would be f'n PERFECT.

Hope to God it comes true, Pendergast might have some upside but right now he's a terrible coordinator for the 3-4.

**Bugeater** · 01-03-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

For the people that don't like the choice of Crennel who is going to be available that would be your choice as DC?

There's a lot of Wade Phillips love around here.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-03-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

WHY does this team have little talent?

Could it be because the Executive of the Decade brought in over 45 new players this year, and all but 2 have sucked?

All the talent on this team comes from previous regimes.

Look at recent Patriots drafts and give me a reason why you think things will be any different in KC.

Why things "could" be different?

The Pats took a big hit when they lost Dimitroff. The Chiefs brought in a Dimitroff disciple in Phil Emery. If the scouting network does their job well, Pioli does his job well. Based on the level of scouting activity, the Chiefs are going to have a lot more in-depth scouting than this franchise has ever seen.

The piece that scares me is that the coach needs to also be very good at evaluating his players and communicating to the GM what he thinks the team needs. I don't trust Haley for one second to do that.

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