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Old 01-15-2010, 12:18 PM  
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This Should Keep Us All Thinking

Whether you agree with the video or not I think it does bring up some valid points. There's definitely some truth here. Go ahead and watch for yourself...it might get you thinking. Kinda did me anyhow.

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Old 01-15-2010, 01:55 PM   #16
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I kept getting chain emails like that from one of my neighbors (old guy who I thought I got along with), then one day he set me off and I called bullshit on one of chain emails. Since then I no longer get a X-mas cards or X-mas caramel corn from him. He also took me off his email list.

Kinda pisses me off though. He had no idea as to my views on anything or politics and he kept sending me that garbage.
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I won't even get started on his 'pro-Obama' emails.
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Old 01-15-2010, 01:56 PM   #17
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Whether you agree with the video or not I think it does bring up some valid points. There's definitely some truth here. Go ahead and watch for yourself...it might get you thinking. Kinda did me anyhow.

Awesome video, I appreciated it .
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:09 PM   #18
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That video pretty much sums up everything wrong with religion.

Rather than communicate with logic or evidence, it peddled a recycled myth that is just vague enough that it can never be 100% proven wrong.

It attacked educational institutions as places filled with hate-mongering and intolerant professors who are ultimately cowards. The perspective reeks of being written by someone who has ignored the last 100 years of academic history and has never attended a university.

The things to "think about" at the end are a series of contrived cliches that are easy to repeat but are ultimately meaningless. First we are assured how serious the video and subject are. Second, we are posed with a question that makes two giant assumptions (God exists and has some control over the world, and that the world is going to hell) and asserts them as if they are beyond reproach.

Throw in a veiled questioning of the media and terrible music and you have the perfect tripe stew.
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:14 PM   #19
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That video pretty much sums up everything wrong with religion.

Rather than communicate with logic or evidence, it peddled a recycled myth that is just vague enough that it can never be 100% proven wrong.

It attacked educational institutions as places filled with hate-mongering and intolerant professors who are ultimately cowards. The perspective reeks of being written by someone who has ignored the last 100 years of academic history and has never attended a university.

The things to "think about" at the end are a series of contrived cliches that are easy to repeat but are ultimately meaningless. First we are assured how serious the video and subject are. Second, we are posed with a question that makes two giant assumptions (God exists and has some control over the world, and that the world is going to hell) and asserts them as if they are beyond reproach.

Throw in a veiled questioning of the media and terrible music and you have the perfect tripe stew.
Nice synopsis.
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Old 01-15-2010, 02:17 PM   #20
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That video pretty much sums up everything wrong with religion.

Rather than communicate with logic or evidence, it peddled a recycled myth that is just vague enough that it can never be 100% proven wrong.

It attacked educational institutions as places filled with hate-mongering and intolerant professors who are ultimately cowards. The perspective reeks of being written by someone who has ignored the last 100 years of academic history and has never attended a university.

The things to "think about" at the end are a series of contrived cliches that are easy to repeat but are ultimately meaningless. First we are assured how serious the video and subject are. Second, we are posed with a question that makes two giant assumptions (God exists and has some control over the world, and that the world is going to hell) and asserts them as if they are beyond reproach.

Throw in a veiled questioning of the media and terrible music and you have the perfect tripe stew.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:34 PM   #21
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That wouldn't have been so bad if it weren't for the shitty music.

Okay, it still would've been bad, but whatever.
Agreed. Music could have been much better.


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You fools if god existed he would have stopped me from watching that video.
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That video pretty much sums up everything wrong with religion.

Rather than communicate with logic or evidence, it peddled a recycled myth that is just vague enough that it can never be 100% proven wrong.

It attacked educational institutions as places filled with hate-mongering and intolerant professors who are ultimately cowards. The perspective reeks of being written by someone who has ignored the last 100 years of academic history and has never attended a university.

The things to "think about" at the end are a series of contrived cliches that are easy to repeat but are ultimately meaningless. First we are assured how serious the video and subject are. Second, we are posed with a question that makes two giant assumptions (God exists and has some control over the world, and that the world is going to hell) and asserts them as if they are beyond reproach.

Throw in a veiled questioning of the media and terrible music and you have the perfect tripe stew.
Nice post. There's lots of different ways to look at this. I'm not so sure there's really one right or wrong answer. I think it's all about your individaul opinion.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:40 PM   #22
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That video pretty much sums up everything wrong with religion.

Rather than communicate with logic or evidence, it peddled a recycled myth that is just vague enough that it can never be 100% proven wrong.

It attacked educational institutions as places filled with hate-mongering and intolerant professors who are ultimately cowards. The perspective reeks of being written by someone who has ignored the last 100 years of academic history and has never attended a university.

The things to "think about" at the end are a series of contrived cliches that are easy to repeat but are ultimately meaningless. First we are assured how serious the video and subject are. Second, we are posed with a question that makes two giant assumptions (God exists and has some control over the world, and that the world is going to hell) and asserts them as if they are beyond reproach.

Throw in a veiled questioning of the media and terrible music and you have the perfect tripe stew.
You're entitled to your opinon I guess.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:43 PM   #23
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You're entitled to your opinon I guess.
Exactly what I was saying above. There's no really right or wrong answer here. That's what's good about it. It's all about everyone's individual opinions and what they themselves believe in. At least that's the way I interpret this.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:48 PM   #24
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:52 PM   #25
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Exactly what I was saying above. There's no really right or wrong answer here. That's what's good about it. It's all about everyone's individual opinions and what they themselves believe in. At least that's the way I interpret this.
I just always find it funny how much heat those of us who are "religious" take on CP. I learned the hard way when I first joined and I always wanted to stand up for my beliefs, and I still will to this day. I have never tried to shove my faith down other peoples throats or anything like that, but have been called a "Bible thumper" "church boy" and just stupid things like that. I find it funny that CP as a whole is very intolerant of those with any religious background. There is a difference between not liking someone because they are jamming their religion down your throat, and not liking someone because they stand up for their faith.
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The biggest problem is that the non-existant professor's argument was so illogical that I can't believe anyone would buy it, let alone thousands of students over many years. The chalk test does nothing to prove or disprove the existence of God (or Jesus). It breaks, fine. It doesn't break, great. If it had stopped in mid air prior to transforming into a life-size Jesus in an Adidas jumpsuit, we might have something.

This will get people to think about how inane this video/story really is.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:54 PM   #27
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Exactly what I was saying above. There's no really right or wrong answer here. That's what's good about it. It's all about everyone's individual opinions and what they themselves believe in. At least that's the way I interpret this.
Exactly what does this have to do with opinions and belief? I suppose one could have an opinion on the music, but the video has little to do with what one believes (unless one is dumb enough to believe the story is true. Of course, even then, it is meaningless.)
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The biggest problem is that the non-existant professor's argument was so illogical that I can't believe anyone would buy it, let alone thousands of students over many years. The chalk test does nothing to prove or disprove the existence of God (or Jesus). It breaks, fine. It doesn't break, great. If it had stopped in mid air prior to transforming into a life-size Jesus in an Adidas jumpsuit, we might have something.


The professor stared at the boy . . . and then ran out of the room, humiliated!!
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I just always find it funny how much heat those of us who are "religious" take on CP. I learned the hard way when I first joined and I always wanted to stand up for my beliefs, and I still will to this day. I have never tried to shove my faith down other peoples throats or anything like that, but have been called a "Bible thumper" "church boy" and just stupid things like that. I find it funny that CP as a whole is very intolerant of those with any religious background. There is a difference between not liking someone because they are jamming their religion down your throat, and not liking someone because they stand up for their faith.
Yeah yeah, you are so persecuted.

Its not that I don't like you - I mean, I don't even know you. You are probably a nice person. Its that the title of your post was something to the effect that "this should keep us all thinking," but then when I watch the video, I think it really encourages the opposite of thinking. And it falls into the larger pattern of how religions tend to operate.

You are confusing intolerance with a general disagreement and lack of respect. You start a thread with a religious theme. I provide a different opinion. That isn't intolerance. Intolerance would be me driving to your house, burning your bibles, and making you a martyr (something I am completely uninterested in doing and morally opposed to). Intolerance is the Holocaust, the pogroms in Europe, the killing of Tibetans, the extermination of the Native Americans. I just think the system of thought you privilege (i.e. Faith > Reason) is ridiculous.

When Christians whine about how they are persecuted, I find it laughable. A significant portion of the time I feel like the stories are just fabricated (like the story of the professor in the video). The rest of the time, disagreement or dissatisfaction with a Christianist agenda is mistaken for persecution. Christians are the most powerful interest group in the country for better or for worse.

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