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Old 10-18-2009, 09:31 AM  
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Peyton Manning

So...

Do you guys still think Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning?

Everyone always said that he played with the better supporting cast...which is why Tom was better.

Now Peyton is playing behind a terrible offensive line and throwing to the likes of Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon...having arguably his best year ever...just like I always said...it wasn't the OTHER players...it was Peyton Manning.

So...

Is Brady still better than Manning?

Just curious.

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Old 02-08-2010, 07:14 PM   #436
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Dwight freeney dissappeared in the second half. The defense sucked balls. The wide outs were dropping balls left and right. The only thing the colts had going for them was Peyton.
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:26 PM   #437
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Of course its everyone elses fault but peytons. Hes perfect.

Its not like HE threw the pick or anything...
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:48 PM   #438
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Except for that Super Bowl he's won and everything.....
If he was really "great" like some of you claim, wouldnt he have more than 1 superbowl win?
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:53 PM   #439
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Of course its everyone elses fault but peytons. Hes perfect.

Its not like HE threw the pick or anything...
I know..people think he's some sort of god

And who cares if Wayne dropped a TD pass on the last drive? I highly doubt the Colts could score 2 TDs in the last 2 minutes..
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:18 PM   #440
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I've seen it done before. Elway did it multiple times. I don't understand why Peyton Almighty couldn't score 2 touchdowns in 2 minutes.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:20 PM   #441
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Of course its everyone elses fault but peytons. Hes perfect.

Its not like HE threw the pick or anything...
Do you know how passing in the NFL works? He was throwing where his receiver was supposed to cut to. His receiver pulled up on the route.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:37 PM   #442
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I've seen it done before. Elway did it multiple times. I don't understand why Peyton Almighty couldn't score 2 touchdowns in 2 minutes.
Its bc Horseface is a way way way better QB than Peyton no matter how much Hootie the Rapist says otherwise.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:44 PM   #443
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Do you know how passing in the NFL works? He was throwing where his receiver was supposed to cut to. His receiver pulled up on the route.
Oh horseshit..Reggie breaks down and cuts to the inside..and when he does Porter already has the pass in his hands..Peyton just made a dumbass decision
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:16 PM   #444
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Except for that Super Bowl he's won and everything.....
Yeah, he was really clutch in that game. They won with the slimmest margins in that game huh?


Funny thing is that he shouldn't have been the MVP of that game. Rhodes should have.

He was clutch in the Pats game, I'll give you that.

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Some people on this site are hopeless, nevermind Manning is the devil and raped your mother.

You are being as big a dick and an idiot as Hootie here.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:38 PM   #446
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Doesn't Manning call his own plays basically? If he didn't like those Hart handoffs, then he could have simply audibled out of them like he has been doing all his career. The Saints played better.
Yeah.

One of the main arguments that Hootie has consistently presented is that Manning is charge of that offense, he calls the plays, he runs things.

Now, when things go wrong, its all the coach's fault.

Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:31 AM   #447
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I think everyone knows that I'm a huge Peyton Manning fan. I'm fairly new to football, and I don't have the same level of understanding as many around here. I admit that. Peyton Manning is one of the best field generals I've ever seen. He has an almost preternatural ability to read defences and a remarkable understanding for the game. He's accurate. He's classy. I like the guy. He's one of the best (certainly, that I've watched) to play the game.

However... people can make excuses... Wayne was off on the route? Ok. Peyton was under pressure? Ok. The bottome line is he made the pass, and the defender made a hell of a play. The game was not over and that pick 6 all but sealed it. Peyton has to take some of (if not all of) the blame on his own shoulders. He's won a lot of games for his team. This time... he lost it for them. He played a great game, minus one play. It just happens that one play was the difference. Sucks, but there it is.

But let's give mad props to the Saints and their coaching staff. They went into the game with one objective: keeep the ball out of Manning's hands. They did that, and they did it well. Some ballsy calls and some great execution on short, time-eating, plays... Those guys coached a great game. They knew that Manning would beat them. So they did there best to make that one guy a non-factor. They were right. Keep Manning out of the game. Make him desperate. Bingo. He made a poor decision at the worst possible time. I bet he wished he had that one back... but...

Congrats Saints. Peyton Manning is still one of the best QB's I've ever seen. I've never called him the GOAT. But let's not act like Manning isn't a classy, intellegent, and talented player. In my personal opinion, I'm comfortable saying he's better than Brady, Big Ben, and even Brees, regardless of his playoff record. He's not as "clutch" as those guys, perhaps. But he's a better QB in every other catagory. But he's not Joe Montana and unless he goes on a hell of a run... like a 3 SBs in a row kinda run... I don't see how he ever will be. He could be #2 when all is said and done. Manning's nowhere near finished and he's getting better. It's wise not to count him out yet. The dude can play.

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Do you know how passing in the NFL works? He was throwing where his receiver was supposed to cut to. His receiver pulled up on the route.
Thats weird because i sligtly remember wayne not even being out of his cut when peyton threw the ball.

Whos fault is it that peyton missed a wide open collie 2 feet to the right of wayne? Is it collies fault he didnt wave his arms and jump up and down and let the "GOAT" realize he probably had around 10-15 yards of extra room to run?

Or perhaps its the olines fault that theyre too tall and got in the GOATs vision?

Maybe jim caldwells fault that he picked a bad play? Oh nevermind, peyton calls ALL of the plays, caldwells just a cheerleader.

Seriously, that was ALL manning. Noone made the decision to throw that ball but manning. Not wayne, or anyone else.
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That INT was all Manning's fault.....but what the **** happened to that defense? They came out in the second half and played 10 yards off of the Saints WRs the entire time.
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All the excuses for Peyton Manning in this thread are ****ing pathetic. He's never been clutch, he still isnt clutch, and he never will be clutch. Who gives a shit if he lead a game winning drive in the REGULAR SEASON. He's a pissant in the playoffs. End of story.
Give me a ****ing break.

Peyton Manning is a terrific QB who played a decent game, but was just one-upped by another outstanding QB.

These claims that this Super Bowl makes him any less of a QB are beyond ridiculous.

Super Bowls aren't easy to win. You have to have just the right level of talent on all sides of the ball and have just the right amount of bounces. Hell, even Tom Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl in umpteen years.

Peyton Manning is a clutch quarterback and I still think he goes down in history as the greatest QB of all time. Regardless of the fact that he (and not his coaching staff) is most responsible for the loss on Sunday.
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