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**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-15-2010, 05:53 PM

This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth.

If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years.

Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine.

So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel.

Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief.

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Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources.

Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle.

Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn.

KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time,

Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks.

Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Actually Pioli drafted Chad Pennington in the first round.

The Assistant Director of Player Personnel is a powerful position...in NE.

RustShack · 02-15-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Pioli didnt work for the Jets in 2000.

Not for the season, but he did for the draft and before it.

Titty Meat · 02-15-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The Assistant Director of Player Personnel is a powerful position...in NE.

From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

RustShack · 02-15-2010, 11:36 PM

I also like how some people are treating Cassel as a rookie. If he was a project that needed time there is no reason not to draft the younger and far more talented project that needs time.

Saccopoo · 02-15-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I really wish the Aids Tree would hit you full force, you make CoMo and Hootie look like geniuses.

You are the reerun claiming that Sanchez is the ultimate QBOTF Franchise guy after his complete shit bag of a season.

Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl.

Rex Grossman got to a Super Bowl.

Because they went deep into the playoffs, are they the ultimate franchise type quarterback? Because you are using that sole qualifier for Sanchez. A guy with a 63 rating and a whopping 12 TDs.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

Yeah, I was speaking only about the Pennington acquisition. I didn't think they overlapped b/c Pioli was off to NE in 2000.

I'm not 100 percent on this. Could be wrong.

RustShack · 02-15-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

The Pioli haters like to pretend the GM does everything without the help of the guys he hired to do that stuff.

**DeezNutz** · 02-15-2010, 11:41 PM

From my perspective, the "Pioli haters" want to see some evidence that the mother****er can put together a string of strong moves on his own.

He simply couldn't have had a worse '09. Now let's see him rebound.

Titty Meat · 02-15-2010, 11:41 PM

Meh even if he drafted Pennington it's not much to write home about. I hope this source is right though this will draw a clear distinction between Pioli and Peterson.

Titty Meat · 02-15-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

From my perspective, the "Pioli haters" want to see some evidence that the mother****er can put together a string of strong moves on his own.

He simply couldn't have had a worse '09. Now let's see him rebound.

This. Pioli looks to be off to a good start by hiring Crennel & Weis, I don't remember the last time the Chiefs didn't have cordinators who were "Yes Sir" guys.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-16-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

you can't use pickle again you ****ing idiot

Yeah Dante, you ****in' Dill-hole.

Ralphy Boy · 02-16-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If I was Clark Hunt I would have fired Pioli the second after he made that trade, or just slapped the shit out of him the moment he propsed it.

There was nothing wrong with the trade, it was the contract that pissed me off.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.

Wasn't that good? 10 & 5 as a starter with a 63.4% completion %, 3,693 yards passing, 21 TD to 11 INT and a 89.4 QB rating is pretty good for a guy that NEVER started a game in the NFL or College until that season.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The numbers support the claims.

Cassel, at best, is average.

Uh, ok.
Cassel's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 79.6, 6,617 yards, 37 TD's, 27 INT's.
Favre's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 78.8, 6,503 yards, 37 TD's, 37 INT's.

Not saying he's Favre, but "numbers" don't support your opinion.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

Better OL? Better WR's? WTF are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm sure he will, but he's playing behind one of, if not the, best offensive lines in the NFL and had the #1 rated defense to cover his ass. But yet, he threw for 500 yards less than Cassel and had four less touchdowns, four more interceptions and a substantially lower quarterback rating. Cassel played behind the worst offensive line in football, had no defense to rely on, and his receivers led the league in drops. But he still had a better year than Sanchez, and people around here are ready to tar and feather Matt. You put Sanchez on this Chiefs team and think about what his stats would have looked like. If he could only throw for 2400 yards and a 63 QB rating on that Jets team, how bad would it have been here? But the vast majority of this board is more than happy to crucify Cassel.

Nice work.

Mecca · 02-16-2010, 01:26 AM

To compare a 22 year old rookie to a 27 year old player is dipshittery at it's finest.

And to this point, Pioli is nothing more than Dayton Moore, a big name candidate who came from a winning organization that has shown exactly nothing to date.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-16-2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

if you want clausen then just ****ing draft him, you dip shits....

or...or...we could wait and see if the QB we want drops 25 ****ing picks and then say "damn...oh well" when someone sane takes him in front of us...

we've already lost one QB because of Cassel...why not pass on the 2nd....

excuse me while i reach through my asshole to pull my penis back out through my ass in a dramatic rendering of how this franchise makes decisions when it comes to the most important player on the field...

Do you own an IHOP? You should. Your ability to flip-flop could elevate the humble pancake to Spago-like artistry.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-16-2010, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yes it does, it proves stats don't mean jack shit when it comes to a QB.

This might be the biggest bullshit post ever on here.

I know Cassel sends you into a spastic trance that is hard to break out of, but good lord almighty.

Stats mean nothing when it comes to a QB? How do you even type such bullshit?

It shows me, that you will write anything just to defend Sanchez.

02-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	Interesting Chiefs News This comes from someone who has been an incredibly reliable source on this site in the past. Take it for what's it's worth. If Claussen falls to around the 20-25th pick the Chiefs may package their 2nd round picks to move up in the draft to take Claussen. Weiss is telling all teams that contact him about Claussen that he is the real deal. Claussen will play in the NFL for 10-15 years. Weiss is not sold on Cassell. He feels that he may not have the mental tools to be a successful QB without better players around him. He feels that he has the physical tools, but lacks the mental discipline thats needed to play the position. Both Haley and Pioli think Cassell will work out fine. So what is gonna happen? Weiss wants a quality backup in place behind Cassell to push him. Croyle is not that backup. Everyone at Arrrowhead knows Croyle is not a long term solution so he can't really push Cassell to excel. Enter Brady Quinn. The Chiefs had talks with Cleveland a couple of weeks ago about a trade to KC. But, the Browns trade demands were really stupidly high so the talks went no where seriously. If the demands come down, Quinn will be a Chief. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the rest of this info is from other sources so get out that shaker of salt to take wth this information. Compiled from 4 different sources. Supposely Buffalo talked to the Chiefs about a trade for Croyle. Cleveland wanted the 2nd round pick plus a 5th rounder for Quinn. KC was willing to part with a 4th-5th rounder for Quinn. Which one would depend on playing time, Weiss and Cassell talk almost every day on the phone and in person. Long talks. Nothing new with the Bowe wants a new contract before the OTA's situation. But, the Chiefs have put out trade feelers to gauge interest in Bowe but most were 4th-5th rounders.
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02-15-2010, 11:36 PM	#244
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02-15-2010, 11:41 PM	#249
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1242442	Meh even if he drafted Pennington it's not much to write home about. I hope this source is right though this will draw a clear distinction between Pioli and Peterson.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-772950	To compare a 22 year old rookie to a 27 year old player is dipshittery at it's finest. And to this point, Pioli is nothing more than Dayton Moore, a big name candidate who came from a winning organization that has shown exactly nothing to date.
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