Cassel's contract

[BigRedChief]

Okay, he signs for $63 million over 6 years. Eye popping #'s but lets look closer....

We have an announced $28 million guaranteed for the length of the contract.

$10 million roster bonus last year.(Basically a signing bonus). USA Today doesn't list this in their DB. Info is from the KC Star.

2009: $15 million paid out in salary(USA Today database)
2010: $16 million salary.(Widely published figure)

I'm not down on Cassell. I think the jury is still out on whether he will be a successful NFL QB for the next 10 years.

Just curious with all the Claussen rumors and Pioli saying they designed the contract to have all this front end money in an uncapped year. But, was it also so if he flops, it doesn't kill the cap in the future?

Just what will it cost us in salary/dead money to cut him after the 2010 season? Looks like to me thats its not a cap killer. But, does anyone know the #?

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by billay

lol.

The knock on Croyle is durability not his acumen in playing the position.

[JOhn]

Originally Posted by billay

Brodie Croyle isn't even a god #2 QB.

BS!

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That money has already been paid though, other than the base salaries or roster bonuses.

There is essentially no penalty for releasing or trading someone right now. So there is no "dead money".

I think that you're right. However, I also don't think there's any penalty for cutting him next year either.

My guess is next year, they either cut him or restructure him. There's no way he earns the 2011 roster bonus unless he absolutely earns it, which is the way it should be.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That money has already been paid though, other than the base salaries or roster bonuses.

There is essentially no penalty for releasing or trading someone right now. So there is no "dead money".

Yes, but this year of Cassel's contract is guaranteed. After that, though, the only dead money would be cap related and that is only if they get a bargaining agreement similar to the last one.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Yes, but this year of Cassel's contract is guaranteed. After that, though, the only dead money would be cap related and that is only if they get a bargaining agreement similar to the last one.

So are we all in agreement, as far as public information goes that Cassell can be cut without killing the cap after thei year?

I'd sure like to know what the # is? I thought the overview contract #'s were public knowledge? Anyone know of a source/database that keeps track of the NFL players better than USA Today?

[Consistent1]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

So are we all in agreement, as far as public information goes that Cassell can be cut without killing the cap after thei year?

I'd sure like to know what the # is? I thought the overview contract #'s were public knowledge? Anyone know of a source/database that keeps track of the NFL players better than USA Today?

Ask your e-mail buds....

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Consistent1

Ask your e-mail buds....

I'd never thought of that.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

The knock on Croyle is durability not his acumen in playing the position.

his durability give doubt about his acumen in playing the position. He hasn't been able to stay on a field long enough to prove he has it.

[Consistent1]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I'd never thought of that.

Haha. We know you are blindfolded and then taken into a room where you hear only one voice. You serve as the sounding board for Scott Pioli, you know the voice. On the way out you are shown more weapons than Gilbert Arenas keeps in his locker as a reminder to keep it on the hush.....

[booger]

long article but bolded parts mention Cassel's contract #s.
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/02/15...ectations.html
Mon, Feb. 15, 2010 10:52 PM


Chiefs’ Cassel has expectations as high as his salary
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Chiefs coach Todd Haley (right) says he is encouraged about where quarterback Matt Cassel is and about where the team is on offense.

Todd Haley watched the Super Bowl with the idea that someday Matt Cassel will take the Chiefs where Drew Brees and Peyton Manning carried their teams.

“I can see him in that role,” Haley said. “I don’t have any doubt.”

That’s fortunate for Haley, because this year Cassel certainly will get paid like one of the NFL’s top quarterbacks. Cassel’s base salary of $11.75 million ranks third among 2010 projected starting quarterbacks, behind only former Super Bowl champions Manning of Indianapolis and Brett Favre of Minnesota.

Players are often compensated with bonuses given when a contract is signed and at other times, so base salaries tell only part of a player’s financial situation. Cassel, for instance, received a $10 million roster bonus last year and is due a $250,000 workout bonus this year, according to financial records obtained by The Kansas City Star.
But base pay often makes up the greatest portion of a player’s income in a given year. Next season, Cassel will draw a salary far in excess of that to be earned by Brees, who is to make about $6.5 million after leading New Orleans to the Super Bowl championship.

Cassel’s salary won’t be rivaled by any of his teammates currently under contract. The next-highest base salary is that of defensive lineman Glenn Dorsey, scheduled to make about $3.2 million.

“I’ve never been a guy who has cared about money,” Cassel said. “Just because you have a dollar figure and that’s what you make, that’s not the kind of person that I am. I’m a down-to-earth kind of guy, and everybody knows that. I’m probably still one of the cheapest guys you’ll ever meet, to be completely honest.

“There’s pressure, and I understand that. That’s what this position is. That’s part of what we signed up for. Everybody looks to you to be the leader. I wouldn’t have it any other way, you know. People have high expectations. I have high expectations for myself. I have high expectations for the Kansas City Chiefs. That just kind of goes along with the territory.”

In ranking third among NFL quarterbacks in base pay, Cassel is in some unfamiliar territory. Each of the five other highest-paid quarterbacks, all also making more than $9 million, has taken a team to multiple Super Bowls (Manning and Favre) or was a high draft pick (Cincinnati’s Carson Palmer, Atlanta’s Matt Ryan and Oakland’s JaMarcus Russell).

Down the list are Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger and New England’s Tom Brady. Each has guided his team to multiple Super Bowl titles and has been financially rewarded with fat bonuses.

Cassel, a starter for only two seasons, has never taken his team to the playoffs and was originally drafted by the Patriots in the seventh round in 2005. But the Chiefs have high expectations for him just the same.

“I’m really encouraged about Matt and where he’s at, and I’m encouraged about where we are as an offense,” Haley said.

Cassel was the 25th-rated quarterback last year, according to the NFL’s arcane passer-rating system. He was 20th in completions and 21st in touchdowns but was held back by a low completion percentage of 55.0 percent.

“We led the league in (dropped passes),” Haley said. “That created a little different perception of Matt.”

The Chiefs threw Cassel into a most difficult situation last season. Their receivers didn’t play well, the offensive line had problems, the running game was nonexistent until Jamaal Charles emerged at midseason, and defensive troubles left the Chiefs behind in many games.


All of that put pressure on Cassel. Haley said the Chiefs will try to provide more help next season, and pointed to the recent hiring of offensive coordinator Charlie Weis as evidence of their intent.

In this case, it’s all about the Chiefs protecting their investment.

“We’ve got to give some help to him, which we’ve done as far as coaching staff, but he needs additional players around him, too,” Haley said.

“We have a number of areas that have to be addressed as we continue to improve. Personnel on offense at a number of those positions is (among) those. We’ll do whatever we can with whatever is available, keeping in mind we have a whole team to try to improve. A lot of things can happen. Things don’t always go as you planned, and sometimes you have to make do.

“There are only so many things you can do. We felt like we exhausted all avenues (last year) that we had as far as what was available. We had a number of different areas — and still do — that we have to address on this team. So I don’t second-guess any of the decisions we made from a personnel standpoint.”

[booger]

From the same link as the star article.

Quarterback salaries

How Matt Cassel’s 2010 base salary compares with those of the NFL’s other projected starting quarterbacks:

(Salaries are in millions)

Quarterback Salary
Peyton Manning, Ind $15.8
Brett Favre, Min $13
Matt Cassel, KC $11.75
Carson Palmer, Cin $10.5
Matt Ryan, Atl $10.25
JaMarcus Russell, Oak $9.45
Marc Bulger, StL $8.5
Tony Romo, Dallas $8.5
Ben Roethlisberger, Pit $8.05
David Garrard, Jac $7.975
Vince Young, Ten $7.5
Jay Cutler, Chi $7
Philip Rivers, SD $6.6
Eli Manning, NYG $6.5
Drew Brees, New Orl. $6.498
Mark Sanchez, NYJ $6.4425
Aaron Rodgers, GB $6
Matt Hasselbeck, Sea $5.75
Donovan McNabb, Phi $5
Matt Schaub, Hou $4.5
Tom Brady, New Eng. $3.5
Alex Smith, SF $2.5
Matt Leinart, Ari $2.485
Jake Delhomme, Car $1.625
Joe Flacco, Balt $1.46
Brady Quinn, Cle $.7
Trent Edwards, Buf $.55
Chad Henne, Miami $.47
Josh Freeman, TB $.395
Matthew Stafford, Det $.395
Neither Denver’s Kyle Orton nor Washington’s Jason Campbell has a contract for 2010.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by billay

lol.

He does, and you're an idiot.

[booger]

Chiefs’ salaries

Base numbers for 2010 season:

Player Salary
QB Matt Cassel $11,750,000
DE Glenn Dorsey $3,233,500
OL Brian Waters $2,900,000
WR Devard Darling $2,000,000
DL Ron Edwards $1,800,000
LB Tamba Hali $1,460,000
P Dustin Colquitt $1,200,000
OL Mike Goff $1,100,000
DE Tyson Jackson $1,075,000
LB Demorrio Williams $1,000,000
DB Jon McGraw $755,000
OL Branden Albert $642,500
CB Travis Daniels $630,000
TE Leonard Pope $630,000
WR Dwayne Bowe $600,000
RB Tim Castille $545,000
LB David Herron $545,000
CB Brandon Carr $470,000
RB Jamaal Charles $470,000
TE Brad Cottam $470,000
CB Brandon Flowers $470,000
LS Thomas Gafford $470,000
DE Wallace Gilberry $470,000
DB DaJuan Morgan $470,000
DB Mike Richardson $470,000
RB Dantrell Savage $470,000
LB Jovan Belcher $395,000
OL Colin Brown $395,000
DL Dion Gales $395,000
OL Darryl Harris $395,000
WR Quinten Lawrence $395,000
WR Lance Long $395,000
DL Alex Magee $395,000
TE Jake O’Connell $395,000
PK Ryan Succop $395,000
LB Pierre Walters $395,000
DB Donald Washington $395,000
RB Javarris Williams $395,000
DB Jackie Bates $320,000
DL Bobby Greenwood $320,000
DB Reshard Langford $320,000
DL Derek Lokey $320,000
RB Kestahn Moore $320,000
OL Jermail Porter $320,000
DB Ricky Price $320,000
WR Chandler Williams $320,000

These players have no 2010 contract:

OL Andy Alleman RB Jackie Battle DB Mike Brown WR Chris Chambers WR Terrance Copper FB Mike Cox QB Brodie Croyle QB Matt Gutierrez LB Derrick Johnson DB Maurice Leggett LB Corey Mays OL Ikechuku Ndukwe OL Rudy Niswanger OL Ryan O’Callaghan DB Jarrad Page OL Barry Richardson TE Sean Ryan RB Kolby Smith OL Wade Smith LB Andy Studebaker LB Mike Vrabel WR Bobby Wade

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Mecca

That money has already been paid though, other than the base salaries or roster bonuses.

There is essentially no penalty for releasing or trading someone right now. So there is no "dead money".

This is what I was thinking. How the hell can you have dead money without a cap?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by booger

Players are often compensated with bonuses given when a contract is signed and at other times, so base salaries tell only part of a player’s financial situation. Cassel, for instance, received a $10 million roster bonus last year and is due a $250,000 workout bonus this year, according to financial records obtained by The Kansas City Star.
But base pay often makes up the greatest portion of a player’s income in a given year. Next season, Cassel will draw a salary far in excess of that to be earned by Brees, who is to make about $6.5 million after leading New Orleans to the Super Bowl championship.

cool thanks. Updated the opening post with this #.