Posting Political/Religious Threads in the Main Forum

[Frazod]

Eventually a mod shows up to move the damned thing, but this has been happening way too much lately.

We have a special playground for all your politards and bible thumpers/haters for a reason.

I propose that from this point forward people who do this should lose their thread starting privileges, at least temporarily.

[tk13]

I got your back frazod! Keep those rats in the cage!

Just kidding. Sorta. Not a big fan of subforums.. I still think we should keep the media and draft stuff on the main forum. But when 2004 rolled around the DC stuff was out of control.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by doomy3

You must have already forgotten about Mark Sanchez.

well, this is a football forum. Arguing about football is at least part of why this forum is here.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Brock

well, this is a football forum. Arguing about football is at least part of why this forum is here.

It was a joke, dude.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by tk13

I got your back frazod! Keep those rats in the cage!

Just kidding. Sorta. Not a big fan of subforums.. I still think we should keep the media and draft stuff on the main forum. But when 2004 rolled around the DC stuff was out of control.

Certainly separating out the media and draft forums isn't nearly as important, but I don't really have a problem with it.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by tk13

I got your back frazod! Keep those rats in the cage!

Just kidding. Sorta. Not a big fan of subforums.. I still think we should keep the media and draft stuff on the main forum. But when 2004 rolled around the DC stuff was out of control.

1) Agreed on the other stuff.
2) It wouldn't be any different today than 2004.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by jAZ

1) Agreed on the other stuff.
2) It wouldn't be any different today than 2004.

Sure it would. Now we have Shitsprayer.

[|Zach|]

I think that is overkill.

I guess I don't see this as much of a problem. Maybe I am missing something.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by jAZ

It's not very gray IMO. If it's political or religious, then it stays in the DC, no matter who posts it (a DC regular, a Lounge-only regular, or a total noob).

The LONE exception is a major news event, one that rises above politics, then it stays in the Lounge until it's hijacked (then moved).

That exception is handled by the mods and they usually get it right. That's a gray area I'm comfortable with.

Whether you realize it or not, that's a huge gray area when you've got people like Frazod around. You may know it when you see it, but different people have different opinions about where the line is drawn.

In any event, it's worth repeating that you are one of the biggest reasons there's a problem with political topics in the Lounge to begin with. You were one of the two or three who couldn't contain yourself enough to avoid spamming the board late in the 2004 election cycle and now we all pay for your sins. You're a little like the drug addict who first argued for the banishment to save the board from yourself and who, after going into recovery, now argues in favor of harsh sentences for other drug users.

Originally Posted by jAZ

But the question being raised here is people who are deliberately and repeatedly trying to take minor stories with a political or religious angle and turning it into a debate in the Lounge.

That's worthy of punishment.

That's actually not the question being raised here. I almost never post a thread in the Lounge. I even more rarely post a thread that has any tangential relationship to politics here. Frazod makes it clear that he considers my recent Cheney prayer thread to be objectionable. By your own standards, a prayer thread belongs in the Lounge where the prayer thread prefix is available and even if DC had prayer prefixes, it's still just a news story as long as it isn't about political positions or a political campaign, IMO. Despite all this, Frazod and a few others didn't "know it when they saw it" the same way you say you would. Furthermore, several of the people who complain about politics in the Lounge actively worked to turn the Cheney prayer thread political, some even went so far as to post irrelevant content about abortion in the effort.

If anyone is worthy of punishment in that scenario (and I'm not advocating punishment here), it's not the guy who just wanted to generate positive thoughts for another human being. It's the people who don't want politics in the Lounge so much that they apparently couldn't resist trying to load the thread down with politics.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by patteeu

That's actually not the question being raised here. I almost never post a thread in the Lounge. I even more rarely post a thread that has any tangential relationship to politics here. Frazod makes it clear that he considers my recent Cheney prayer thread to be objectionable. By your own standards, a prayer thread belongs in the Lounge where the prayer thread prefix is available and even if DC had prayer prefixes, it's still just a news story as long as it isn't about political positions or a political campaign, IMO. Despite all this, Frazod and a few others didn't "know it when they saw it" the same way you say you would. Furthermore, several of the people who complain about politics in the Lounge actively worked to turn the Cheney prayer thread political, some even went so far as to post irrelevant content about abortion in the effort.

If anyone is worthy of punishment in that scenario (and I'm not advocating punishment here), it's not the guy who just wanted to generate positive thoughts for another human being. It's the people who don't want politics in the Lounge so much that they apparently couldn't resist trying to load the thread down with politics.

In all fairness Pat you knew what you were doing when you started a prayer thread about Cheney in the Lounge. I went and read through the thread and you even admitted in your OP that it would be moved to DC. You can't blame anybody but yourself on this one so don't try to play little mrs. innocent.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

In all fairness Pat you knew what you were doing when you started a prayer thread about Cheney in the Lounge. I went and read through the thread and you even admitted in your OP that it would be moved to DC. You can't blame anybody but yourself on this one so don't try to play little mrs. innocent.

I didn't "admit" that "it would be moved". I made my case for why I didn't think it was political and left it in the hands of the mods, knowing that there would be people like Frazod who would complain regardless of content just because I'm associated with DC.

If you're really interested in fairness, you should admit that the OP wasn't political and that I didn't do anything to make the thread political. It could have just as easily been a prayer request for a rock star or a NASCAR driver as for a former politician based on the way I treated it prior to it's overnight retirement to the DC forum.

Edit: BTW, I think the mods handled that particular thread in a fine fashion.

[Frazod]

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the Neocon Ringleader, patteeu. If ever you needed a reason why politards should be contained, he's it.

According to patteeu, his obvious, devisive thread wasn't devisive, posting political crap in a forum filled with people who don't want to see it is good, posting political crap in a forum filled with people who do want to see it is bad, having to make an extra mouse click before posting a political thread is censorship, anyone who disagrees with him is misguided, and, of course, the whole thing is jAZ's fault. And through it all, he ignores the wishes of the majority and gives the mods a first class ball washing!

Keep posting, patteeu. Nothing furthers my cause more than you being yourself.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by frazod

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present the Neocon Ringleader, patteeu. If ever you needed a reason why politards should be contained, he's it.

According to patteeu, his obvious, devisive thread wasn't devisive, posting political crap in a forum filled with people who don't want to see it is good, posting political crap in a forum filled with people who do want to see it is bad, having to make an extra mouse click before posting a political thread is censorship, anyone who disagrees with him is misguided, and, of course, the whole thing is jAZ's fault. And through it all, he ignores the wishes of the majority and gives the mods a first class ball washing!

Keep posting, patteeu. Nothing furthers my cause more than you being yourself.

You're one of the few posters who consistently spells my name right. I appreciate that. It says to me you care.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You're one of the few posters who consistently spells my name right. I appreciate that. It says to me you care.

It actually just says that I can read.

Is that all you've got left?

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by patteeu

That's actually not the question being raised here. I almost never post a thread in the Lounge. I even more rarely post a thread that has any tangential relationship to politics here. Frazod makes it clear that he considers my recent Cheney prayer thread to be objectionable. By your own standards, a prayer thread belongs in the Lounge where the prayer thread prefix is available and even if DC had prayer prefixes, it's still just a news story as long as it isn't about political positions or a political campaign, IMO. Despite all this, Frazod and a few others didn't "know it when they saw it" the same way you say you would. Furthermore, several of the people who complain about politics in the Lounge actively worked to turn the Cheney prayer thread political, some even went so far as to post irrelevant content about abortion in the effort.

If anyone is worthy of punishment in that scenario (and I'm not advocating punishment here), it's not the guy who just wanted to generate positive thoughts for another human being. It's the people who don't want politics in the Lounge so much that they apparently couldn't resist trying to load the thread down with politics.

Oooh, that's right! I had forgotten about your stunt. Yeah, you were indeed guilty of trying to manipulate the rules and take a minor political news story and turn it into a public fawning over your favorite politician.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Oooh, that's right! I had forgotten about your stunt. Yeah, you were indeed guilty of trying to manipulate the rules and take a minor political news story and turn it into a public fawning over your favorite politician.

See, you don't really know it when you see it and your deficient "know it when you see it" standard is in conflict with your "the prefix tells me where to post" standard. Your position is a mess, to be honest.