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[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Admiral Crunch

He would blow it, if he did. Cassel sucks and an entire line of Okungs is not going to change that.

Actually, in looking at the Jets, that might be true. If Cassel sucks, then Sanchez sucks much worse as the stats below indicate:

Cassel:
Yards: 2,924
TDs: 16
Ints: 16
Rating: 69.9

Sanchez:
Yards: 2,444
TDs: 12
Ints: 20
Rating: 63.0

And yet, Sanchez is playing behind a substantially, almost exponentially so, better offensive line than Cassel. So, you are correct. If the quarterback sucks dog nuts, it really doesn't matter how good the offensive line is in front of them.

I concur with your logic, and the numbers prove your point.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Actually, in looking at the Jets, that might be true. If Cassel sucks, then Sanchez sucks much worse as the stats below indicate:

Cassel:
Yards: 2,924
TDs: 16
Ints: 16
Rating: 69.9

Sanchez:
Yards: 2,444
TDs: 12
Ints: 20
Rating: 63.0

And yet, Sanchez is playing behind a substantially, almost exponentially so, better offensive line than Cassel. So, you are correct. If the quarterback sucks dog nuts, it really doesn't matter how good the offensive line is in front of them.

I concur with your logic, and the numbers prove your point.

JFC.

You are really an obtuse ****er.

You're comparing a rookie QB with one year of college starting experience to a 5 year vet with one year of NFL starting experience and trying to make some kind of point?

The only point you are making is that you are a dumb****.

But then we already knew that, so the point is wasted.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman

You're comparing a rookie QB with one year of college starting experience to a 5 year vet with one year of NFL starting experience and trying to make some kind of point?

But yet it's okay to say that Cassel sucks when he played behind what many people consider to be the worst, or lowest performing offensive line in football and when his receivers led the league in drops?

Sanchez doesn't suck, even though his statistics say he does, because he's a rookie, but he's playing behind what most consider to be the best offensive line in football.

It's really going to be hard to get a consensus on this. Cassel sucks dog nuts, but his stats are substantially better than what many around here think is QBOTF material in Sanchez, because Cassel has an additional year of playing experience, but he plays behind the worst line in football while Sanchez plays behind the best line in football.

So, then, you feel that experience is more important and is a greater determining factor in grading a quarterbacks performance than the quality of players surrounding the quarterback, correct?

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

But yet it's okay to say that Cassel sucks when he played behind what many people consider to be the worst, or lowest performing offensive line in football and when his receivers led the league in drops?

Sanchez doesn't suck, even though his statistics say he does, because he's a rookie, but he's playing behind what most consider to be the best offensive line in football.

It's really going to be hard to get a consensus on this. Cassel sucks dog nuts, but his stats are substantially better than what many around here think is QBOTF material in Sanchez, because Cassel has an additional year of playing experience, but he plays behind the worst line in football while Sanchez plays behind the best line in football.

So, then, you feel that experience is more important and is a greater determining factor in grading a quarterbacks performance than the quality of players surrounding the quarterback, correct?

Sanchez is still in the oven. Cassel is already on the counter, half-eaten, cold, and tastes like a heaping bowl of salt. Plus, he's given you massive diarrhea of epic proportions.

So what do you do? Do you eat what is left of Cassel, even if he tastes shitty and gives you massive diarrhea of epic proportions? Hell no.

The solution is to let Sanchez fully cook in the oven and let him cool off on the counter. More than likely, Sanchez tastes much better and is much healthier for you.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Okung's sac

But yet it's okay to say that Cassel sucks when he played behind what many people consider to be the worst, or lowest performing offensive line in football and when his receivers led the league in drops?

Sanchez doesn't suck, even though his statistics say he does, because he's a rookie, but he's playing behind what most consider to be the best offensive line in football.

It's really going to be hard to get a consensus on this. Cassel sucks dog nuts, but his stats are substantially better than what many around here think is QBOTF material in Sanchez, because Cassel has an additional year of playing experience, but he plays behind the worst line in football while Sanchez plays behind the best line in football.

So, then, you feel that experience is more important and is a greater determining factor in grading a quarterbacks performance than the quality of players surrounding the quarterback, correct?

You really have a hard copmprehending simple concepts, don't you?

Cassel was in the NFL, learning behind one of the best QBs in the league, with the best HC, and what many considered to be a damn good OC.

He had a year as the starter in the NFL.

Sanchez had two years behind a marginally talented college QB, playing for a guy considered a great recruiter, though not necessarily a great coach, and a very good college OC.

He had one year as a starter in college.

Bottom line, the years in the NFL should have prepared Cassel better than the years of college for Sanchez, and it showed.

But by season's end, Sanchez was showing the kind of QB that he can become in time.

He is more talented, throws a better, more accurate deep ball, has a stronger arm, and his teammates seem to love him, which makes him a leader.

One can argue, and since I'm the one here, I will be that one, that Cassel showed at the end of the season, with better protection and a running game to support him, what kind of QB he can become.

Does the word "mediocre" work for you?

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Actually, in looking at the Jets, that might be true. If Cassel sucks, then Sanchez sucks much worse as the stats below indicate:

Cassel:
Yards: 2,924
TDs: 16
Ints: 16
Rating: 69.9

Sanchez:
Yards: 2,444
TDs: 12
Ints: 20
Rating: 63.0

And yet, Sanchez is playing behind a substantially, almost exponentially so, better offensive line than Cassel. So, you are correct. If the quarterback sucks dog nuts, it really doesn't matter how good the offensive line is in front of them.

I concur with your logic, and the numbers prove your point.

Sanchez has potential. Cassel is already maxed out.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Admiral Crunch

Sanchez has potential. Cassel is already maxed out.

And why do you say that? Cassel has only one more year of NFL starting experience than Sanchez, is bigger, faster, and more athletic. I would think that Cassel has a lot more room to grow into the starting QB role, especially if they got him some protection and receiving help.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And why do you say that? Cassel has only one more year of NFL starting experience than Sanchez, is bigger, faster, and more athletic. I would think that Cassel has a lot more room to grow into the starting QB role, especially if they got him some protection and receiving help.

The guy can't throw the long pass, even if his life depended on it. Plus, the guy, himself, admits to having anxiety problems. That is a bad combination for a so-called franchise QB.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And why do you say that? Cassel has only one more year of NFL starting experience than Sanchez, is bigger, faster, and more athletic. I would think that Cassel has a lot more room to grow into the starting QB role, especially if they got him some protection and receiving help.

You must be an offensive quarterback scout...

[warrior]

Originally Posted by Sully

You must be an offensive sack sucker...

Fixed your post---------no charge