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**chiefforlife** · 03-07-2010, 06:25 PM

Fargas will visit the Chiefs
Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 7:17 PM ET
Running back Justin Fargas, who was cut by the Raiders for supposedly failing a physical but who claims he didn't, could be getting a chance to take another physical soon.

David White of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that Fargas will be visiting the Chiefs.

"I was told by [Raiders coach Tom Cable] that they were moving in a different direction," Fargas told White. "They said it was strictly about money. . . . I know some things were put out there, I guess they said I didn't ass [unfortunate typo not narrowly averted] a physical. I'm a little disappointed by the way it happened but I understand it's a business."

He told White that he won't be retiring, and while he says he won't return to the Raiders his agent has been in touch with the 49ers.

And if Fargas is willing to move north, his former college coach could be interested, too.

As to the notion that it was "strictly about money," Fargas was due to earn a base salary of only $755,000 in 2010. That said, there's a chance that he had a roster bonus due.

Per NFLPA records, Fargas was under contract with the Raiders through 2014, with a base salary maxing out at $1.775 million in the final year.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-07-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Walters isn't a long term option? You're a ****ing dumbass. Please go to Jonestown and see if theres anymore Kool Aid left to drink.

Give me a ****ing break.

Walter is a good receiver and he would have been a nice add. I would have rather have had him than Chambers.

But let's not treat him like he's some kind of a messiah. He's a guy who can give us a few good years until you find someone younger to replace him. Not a whole lot different than Chambers, except that you have a little more time.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-07-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

It's painfully obvious you don't watch the games.

What about the 2 years before where Walters outplayed Chambers?

Care to explain why Walter isn't a 5 year option other than it's made up and makes your argument look better?

Because he'll be 29 years old in August.

You really want this team to be going into the playoffs 5 years from now with a 34 year old receiver who was never a superstar even in his peak years?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-07-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

cassel will have more time with Okong blocking for him

Cassel could have time to grill a cheeseburger and brew sun tea in the backfield; he'd still hail mary the goal post.

Titty Meat · 03-07-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Give me a ****ing break.

Walter is a good receiver and he would have been a nice add. I would have rather have had him than Chambers.

But let's not treat him like he's some kind of a messiah. He's a guy who can give us a few good years until you find someone younger to replace him. Not a whole lot different than Chambers, except that you have a little more time.

You keep saying theres not alot of difference besides one being 32 the other being 28. Thats a huge ****ing difference in the NFL.

**DeezNutz** · 03-07-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

cassel will have more time with Okong blocking for him

Your avi makes me think that you throw up the deuces at home to yourself after every post.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-07-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Yes, genius...the most recent one.
And in that one... Chambers outplayed the younger WR.

Walter isn't going to be a 5 year solution.
I don't know why you suggested that.
I would much rather re-sign Chambers as a #2 who can stretch the field (something that he's better at than Walter) and DRAFT his replacement.

Wow, hypocritical much?

Walter, who's 28 years old, can't play until he's 33.

Yet the guy you're pimping, who's 31, has at least two years left in the tank.

Interesting.

Demonpenz · 03-07-2010, 08:54 PM

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BryanBusby · 03-07-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

I bet we'll sign the 32 year old with off field issues and see the same results as LJ once he got a new contract.

So he's gonna spit on skanks up in da club?

Q_Q because the Chiefs aren't signing anybody and Q_Q because the Chiefs are working on signing somebody

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-07-2010, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Because he'll be 29 years old in August.

You really want this team to be going into the playoffs 5 years from now with a 34 year old receiver who was never a superstar even in his peak years?

You're assuming he'd still be a WR2 at that point.

Then again, considering Pioli's drafting ability, you might be right.

Titty Meat · 03-07-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

So he's gonna spit on skanks up in da club?

Q_Q because the Chiefs aren't signing anybody and Q_Q because the Chiefs are working on signing somebody

Looks like he'll be too busy cakn partna.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 03-07-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

C'mon, Flop.

How can you expect a guy that hasn't been consistent over the last 5 seasons to magically maintain that level of play here - as he's aging?

You know, if he had consistently put up 800+ yards over the past 5 years, I wouldn't have nearly the issue.

Problem is, he hasn't. He had an average year catching punts from Matt Cassel, people forget about his past, and now he's a legit WR2?

It doesn't work that way. Unless you're just going out of your way to be optimistic, I see no evidence to lead me to believe that Chambers will replicate his performance of 2009.

I was incredibly impressed with the way he came to this team and went to work. I'm a big Chris Chambers fan. I know his production dropped off over the last 5 years, and I think he was on his way out of the league.

I also think that Todd Haley would be eating his 22 guys off the street bullshit words if it weren't for Chris Chambers.

I absolutely think he'll repeat last year's performance if not exceed it. He's one of the very few assets I think this team has.

If we actually get him signed, I'll gladly own this post this time next year if he doesn't meet expectations.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-07-2010, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

C'mon, Flop.

How can you expect a guy that hasn't been consistent over the last 5 seasons to magically maintain that level of play here - as he's aging?

You know, if he had consistently put up 800+ yards over the past 5 years, I wouldn't have nearly the issue.

Problem is, he hasn't. He had an average year catching punts from Matt Cassel, people forget about his past, and now he's a legit WR2?

It doesn't work that way. Unless you're just going out of your way to be optimistic, I see no evidence to lead me to believe that Chambers will replicate his performance of 2009.

Look, I'm worried about the consistency issue too. But you're really selling him short by saying he had an "average" year. He was on pace to gain 1100 yards for a shitty offense with a QB who was playing like shit.

Chambers was doing a lot of stuff that Bowe should have been long. He was catching a lot of very poorly thrown balls, doing a great job jumping up to get underthrown balls, catching balls in the middle of the field as well as serve as a legit deep option. He wasn't just an average #2 WR in 2009 with the Chiefs. He was a middle-of-the-road #1 WR.

If Chambers continues to commit to the game, I'm not worried about him. Frankly, I'm a hell of a lot more worried about Bowe.

Micjones · 03-07-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

How much do you want to bet Chambers was targeted more than Bowe? For ****s sake some games Long got targeted more than Bowe. Did you even watch the games?

In 2009:
Dwayne Bowe was targeted 87 times in 11 games.
Chris Chambers was targeted 61 times (as a Chief) in 9 games.

Sorry...what were you saying?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-07-2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Give me a ****ing break.

Walter is a good receiver and he would have been a nice add. I would have rather have had him than Chambers.

But let's not treat him like he's some kind of a messiah. He's a guy who can give us a few good years until you find someone younger to replace him. Not a whole lot different than Chambers, except that you have a little more time.

I don't think neither myself nor billay are painting Walter as the messiah.

He produces consistently, and buys you more time.

Chambers has produced once in five years, and you might get another year or two out of him.

I guess he really wowed people pulling in those punts from Cassel.

BryanBusby · 03-07-2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

If Chambers continues to commit to the game, I'm not worried about him. Frankly, I'm a hell of a lot more worried about Bowe.

This over and over again.

03-07-2010, 06:25 PM
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