Chiefs Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR - Page 35

**petegz28** · 04-23-2010, 04:52 PM

Just reported on 810

Mecca · 04-24-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Better than the worst draft in team history= good.

Awesome

Apparently when you set your bar really really low, it's not hard to make people happy.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-24-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

How is that moving anything, you listed the example as a guy who's been a cover 2 CB his entire career.

I get that you want to like the picks but seriously Arenas is going to have to be like the best returner in the league or be a far better CB than anyone thinks he is to make this pick look ok.

I don't think the pick will ever look okay.

But if he ends up being an effective nickel back, it's a reach, but not a huge reach.

Nickel backs are extremely important. If this team projects to be a deep playoff team a few years from now, there's no way we can win playoff games with a major hole at the position.

KC kid · 04-24-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Everson Griffen must have shit on someones head, that's pretty ridiculous that he's still there.

I'm more annoyed that we didn't get a nose tackle when there were several very good NT prospects.

I was screaming for griffen too, but he would have been a reach. . . in actuality

Pushead2 · 04-24-2010, 02:00 AM

**** you Pioli for not addressing any needs for this team...

Mecca · 04-24-2010, 02:00 AM

I just honestly do not understand how this team is suppose to compete in games with no pass rush and no NT in a 3-4 defense.

You can have the best secondary ever, when the QB has all day to throw or RB's are 8 yards downfield, it won't matter much.

Berry's the right pick at 5, but I thought we'd be smart enough to at least get a NT in this draft.

Mecca · 04-24-2010, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushead2

**** you Pioli for not addressing any needs for this team...

Ok now look, the draft is about mixing your needs with the best available players, I don't feel we did a very good job of that in the 2nd round.

KC kid · 04-24-2010, 02:01 AM

This team had 9 needs and 7 picks.

Titty Meat · 04-24-2010, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Better than the worst draft in team history= good.

Awesome

IMO I think you're being too emotional man. Theres three solid players they drafted.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-24-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He got drafted in front of several CB's who have futures as starters.

Drafting a CB in the second round is like throwing a dart at a wall blindfolded. It might be one of the toughest later-round positions to draft for.

I like this pick a hell of a lot more than I liked the Donald Washington pick. Washington pick was a gamble on a guy who you expected to one day mature into a good corner. He probably won't. Arenas is a guy who will probably play really well in a specialized nickel and dime role.

It was a pretty safe pick, in my opinion. I'm not stoked about it. But it certainly wasn't any kind of a failure.

Mecca · 04-24-2010, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KC kid

This team had 9 needs and 7 picks.

That's great I don't expect them to get it all right now but I would expect them to get players for really important defensive positions over nickel CB's.

KC kid · 04-24-2010, 02:03 AM

So do you think there is any trades after the draft? Often, teams are willing to give up draft picks a year away.

The problem is. . . where will our pass rush come from? Do you really see us doing better than Hali or Vrabel?

Is Merriman even an upgrade?

Hootie · 04-24-2010, 02:04 AM

I LOVE dane mccloud right now...

wow...

an objective Dane McCloud?!

I'm amazed...

Seriously...

I was SO disappointed when the Chiefs passed on Clausen at #36..

but when I did my research...

on McCluster and Arenas...

Holy shit!

We took two great players...along with Berry...we took THREE potential PLAYMAKERS...for real.

A draft if you ask me...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

IMO I think you're being too emotional man. Theres three solid players they drafted.

I see two starters, one of whom is a guard.

I two other complementary pieces drafted at the point when you are supposed to get solid starters.

Pioli is making $5 million a year. If he wants to earn that money, the standard is the Ravens, Colts, and Steelers approach to drafting.

Not the ****ing Carl Peterson Chiefs.

KC kid · 04-24-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Drafting a CB in the second round is like throwing a dart at a wall blindfolded. It might be one of the toughest later-round positions to draft for.

I like this pick a hell of a lot more than I liked the Donald Washington pick. Washington pick was a gamble on a guy who you expected to one day mature into a good corner. He probably won't. Arenas is a guy who will probably play really well in a specialized nickel and dime role.

It was a pretty safe pick, in my opinion. I'm not stoked about it. But it certainly wasn't any kind of a failure.

I dont think this pick is a guaranteed bust. I do not love it at all though. I think I have a harder time swallowing it since we traded tony g for Arenas.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-24-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I just honestly do not understand how this team is suppose to compete in games with no pass rush and no NT in a 3-4 defense.

You can have the best secondary ever, when the QB has all day to throw or RB's are 8 yards downfield, it won't matter much.

Berry's the right pick at 5, but I thought we'd be smart enough to at least get a NT in this draft.

Because the minute you walk into the draft expecting to do that is the minute you start reaching by drafting for need.

Nobody says you have to get all those answers this draft. But are these 4 players key pieces to the equation in the future? Yes, I absolutely believe they have the potential to be (I don't know a whole lot about Asomoah). That's what's more important.

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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	I just honestly do not understand how this team is suppose to compete in games with no pass rush and no NT in a 3-4 defense. You can have the best secondary ever, when the QB has all day to throw or RB's are 8 yards downfield, it won't matter much. Berry's the right pick at 5, but I thought we'd be smart enough to at least get a NT in this draft.
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KC kid Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $10004940	So do you think there is any trades after the draft? Often, teams are willing to give up draft picks a year away. The problem is. . . where will our pass rush come from? Do you really see us doing better than Hali or Vrabel? Is Merriman even an upgrade?
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I LOVE dane mccloud right now... wow... an objective Dane McCloud?! I'm amazed... Seriously... I was SO disappointed when the Chiefs passed on Clausen at #36.. but when I did my research... on McCluster and Arenas... Holy shit! We took two great players...along with Berry...we took THREE potential PLAYMAKERS...for real. A draft if you ask me...
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