Chiefs Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

Mecca · 04-25-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Which offensive lineman from the 2009 draft in rounds 3-7 did the Chiefs pass up that would have made such a gigantic difference?

Defend that draft from last year, I dare you, it'll just make me laugh at you.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Defend that draft from last year, I dare you, it'll just make me laugh at you.

You know, you've once again lost all of your credibility with me.

You ****ing talk in absolutes then when challenged, ask one of your stupid, passive-aggressive questions.

I'll ask you once again, which offensive lineman from rounds 3-7 did the Chiefs pass on, that would have made such a HUGE contribution.

I already admitted I was wrong about Urbick.

What the **** is wrong with you not being able to admit when you're wrong or not being able to back up your SHIT?

Hootie's right: You're a ****ing PHONY.

And I've just joined in with the other 11,997 Chiefsplanet members in laughing at YOU.

Mecca · 04-25-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You know, you've once again lost all of your credibility with me.

You ****ing talk in absolutes then when challenged, ask one of your stupid, passive-aggressive questions.

I'll ask you once again, which offensive lineman from rounds 3-7 did the Chiefs pass on, that would have made such a HUGE contribution.

I already admitted I was wrong about Urbick.

What the **** is wrong with you not being able to admit when you're wrong or not being able to back up your SHIT?

Hootie's right: You're a ****ing PHONY.

And I've just joined in with the other 11,997 Chiefsplanet members in laughing at YOU.

Like being Hootie for the weekend? Is it fun?

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Like being Hootie for the weekend? Is it fun?

It's more fun that being an asshole who deals in absolutes

milkman · 04-25-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You know, you've once again lost all of your credibility with me.

You ****ing talk in absolutes then when challenged, ask one of your stupid, passive-aggressive questions.

I'll ask you once again, which offensive lineman from rounds 3-7 did the Chiefs pass on, that would have made such a HUGE contribution.

I already admitted I was wrong about Urbick.

What the **** is wrong with you not being able to admit when you're wrong or not being able to back up your SHIT?

Hootie's right: You're a ****ing PHONY.

And I've just joined in with the other 11,997 Chiefsplanet members in laughing at YOU.

mecca aside, Eric Wood and Andy Levitre were both starters for the Bills last season, and will be slated to start again, and should improve substantially with a season under their belt this year.

Jamon Merdith also took a lot of snaps for them and played credibly as an injury replacement at Rt, while Demtrius Bell looked like a guy with real upside who just needs to learn technique at LT.

That's 4 guys on one team.

Mecca · 04-25-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

mecca aside, Eric Wood and Andy Levitre were both starters for the Bills last season, and will be slated to start again, and should improve substantially with a season under their belt this year.

Jamon Merdith also took a lot of snaps for them and played credibly as an injury replacement at Rt, while Demtrius Bell looked like a guy with real upside who just needs to learn technique at LT.

That's 4 guys on one team.

He's going to tell you some of those guys don't count....here it comes.

milkman · 04-25-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's going to tell you some of those guys don't count....here it comes.

Dane can be stubborn and a pit bull., but I also think he's also reasonable when presnted with legitimate evidence.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

mecca aside, Eric Wood and Andy Levitre were both starters for the Bills last season, and will be slated to start again, and should improve substantially with a season under their belt this year.

Jamon Merdith also took a lot of snaps for them and played credibly as an injury replacement at Rt, while Demtrius Bell looked like a guy with real upside who just needs to learn technique at LT.

That's 4 guys on one team.

Levitre was taken in the second, so he doesn't count. Wood was a guard, Meredith was picked up on waivers from GB and Bell might be good someday.

None of those guys were particularly special and I think it's safe to say (especially in the case of Meredith, since they had a chance to claim him) that the Chiefs didn't like any of them.

And as I mentioned earlier, I'd take Asamoah over any of them.

It's like the linebacker thing this year: I don't think that any of the guys available at #36 or #50 were "special" players, just good prospects.

milkman · 04-25-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Levitre was taken in the second, so he doesn't count. Wood was a guard, Meredith was picked up on waivers from GB and Bell might be good someday.

None of those guys were particularly special and I think it's safe to say (especially in the case of Meredith, since they had a chance to claim him) that the Chiefs didn't like any of them.

And as I mentioned earlier, I'd take Asamoah over any of them.

It's like the linebacker thing this year: I don't think that any of the guys available at #36 or #50 were "special" players, just good prospects.

We aren't talking about who Pioli would have picked, we are talking about guys that were in last years draft that were passed that would have helped.

I couldn't remember what rounds any of these guys were taken, I simply named guys that would have helped this O-Line, regardless of what Pioli might have done.

Were they special?
No.

Were they pretty good?
Yes.

And who the hell was Pioli going to pick up on waivers?

Leaves falling from the ****ing tree.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

We aren't talking about who Pioli would have picked, we are talking about guys that were in last years draft that were passed that would have helped.

I couldn't remember what rounds any of these guys were taken, I simply named guys that would have helped this O-Line, regardless of what Pioli might have done.

Were they special?
No.

Were they pretty good?
Yes.

And who the hell was Pioli going to pick up on waivers?

Leaves falling from the ****ing tree.

No, I understand what you're saying. But Mecca said that Pioli did the same think as last year, ignoring the "strength" of the draft, this year drafting offense instead of defense. Last year, he drafted defense instead of offense (in this case, Mecca specifically stated offensive line).

What I'm saying is that last year's class that was touted as being so great, really wasn't "great" from rounds 3-7. Urbick's a failure in Pittsburgh. Very few of the later picks are anything other than just "guys", nothing the Chiefs (or us as fans) should regret they passed on.

milkman · 04-25-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, I understand what you're saying. But Mecca said that Pioli did the same think as last year, ignoring the "strength" of the draft, this year drafting offense instead of defense. Last year, he drafted defense instead of offense (in this case, Mecca specifically stated offensive line).

What I'm saying is that last year's class that was touted as being so great, really wasn't "great" from rounds 3-7. Urbick's a failure in Pittsburgh. Very few of the later picks are anything other than just "guys", nothing the Chiefs (or us as fans) should regret they passed on.

A lot of the guys that many of us wanted to draft on the O-Line went to teams that had solid O-Lines already, so it's unfair to say that we should regret passing on them, becuase we had shit.

Marcellus · 04-25-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

mecca aside, Eric Wood and Andy Levitre were both starters for the Bills last season, and will be slated to start again, and should improve substantially with a season under their belt this year.

Jamon Merdith also took a lot of snaps for them and played credibly as an injury replacement at Rt, while Demtrius Bell looked like a guy with real upside who just needs to learn technique at LT.

That's 4 guys on one team.

So the Bills who finished behind KC in EVERY offensive category have a bunch of potentially good players on their OL that should only get better after a year under their belt.

This belief is based on what?

milkman · 04-25-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So the Bills who finished behind KC in EVERY offensive category have a bunch of potentially good players on their OL that should only get better after a year under their belt.

This belief is based on what?

Based on the fact that their all talented guys.

4 rookies on an offensive line in a game where anyone will tell you that good line play requires chemistry, and chemistry takes time to develop.

But then you knew that, I'm sure.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-25-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Based on the fact that their all talented guys.

4 rookies on an offensive line in a game where anyone will tell you that good line play requires chemistry, and chemistry takes time to develop.

But then you knew that, I'm sure.

I think Wood will develop into a solid player and it's possible that Meredith does as well. I can't believe that the Bills will go into this season without making a trade for a left tackle because it's a serious need for them.

That being said, I'm not upset that the Chiefs didn't take one of those guys, especially considering the moves they've made this offseason.

milkman · 04-25-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Wood will develop into a solid player and it's possible that Meredith does as well. I can't believe that the Bills will go into this season without making a trade for a left tackle because it's a serious need for them.

That being said, I'm not upset that the Chiefs didn't take one of those guys, especially considering the moves they've made this offseason.

I watched the Bills a lot last year, becuase od Wood and Meredith specifically.

Andy Levitre was the best of the four rookies.

Wood looked lost a few times, but did show his talent as well, and will probably become a stud.

But Demetrius Bell showed the athletic ability that some said he had going onto the draft, and said he was a project that had huge upside.

He was that.

He struggled more than the rest, but his upside is off the charts.

He could, if they show patience and stick with him, become a top 5 LT.