Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[ChiefsCountry]

If it was any team but Baltimore that took Kindle and Cody, I wouldn't be as pissed for passing on those guys. Newsome taking them means they are pretty darn good players. I love Berry and Asamoah picks. They are two future all-pros. Molkei is talented but he is Brodie Croyle of the Tight Ends. Million dollar talent, one dollar body. 5th round was solid. I love the OLB from Troy. It was a much metter draft but one that could have been better IMO. I love Arenas, but 2nd round was a little high for him. McCluster is a stud but I don't know for the Chiefs right now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If it was any team but Baltimore that took Kindle and Cody, I wouldn't be as pissed for passing on those guys. Newsome taking them means they are pretty darn good players.

Baltimore has the luxury of being able to take two questionable players due to their depth and success. Most teams can't take that risk defensively.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Baltimore has the luxury of being able to take two questionable players due to their depth and success. Most teams can't take that risk defensively.

Baltimore drafts like that every year though. Its why they have the most talented roster in the NFL, they just never had a franchise QB.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Baltimore drafts like that every year though. Its why they have the most talented roster in the NFL, they just never had a franchise QB.

It's amazing that the same 6-8 teams, who are drafting in the 20's and 30's almost every year are the best drafting teams.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's amazing that the same 6-8 teams, who are drafting in the 20's and 30's almost every year are the best drafting teams.

Basically Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Indy draft really well each year.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Basically Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Indy draft really well each year.

It's true, which is interesting because I think they all have different draft philosophies. I think a lot of people like the Ravens because they seem to play the most of the traditional "board" that most NFL fans have. I think they really view things the way most of the hardcore draft fans here do.

Not that the Steelers don't, but I think they'll veer a little more off course, but seem to always take guys who were very productive. I feel like they'll take a very productive college player over someone who's a little more "hype" or who may have a question mark.

And the Colts just give everyone a big middle finger and pretty much do whatever they want. They don't play by anyone's board or analysis. But at this point they've done so well it's just gotten to the point nobody questions them anymore. Kind of a rare situation.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Basically Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Indy draft really well each year.

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

Pertaining to the point you made about Indy...

Yep. That's what I've said all along...

Peyton Manning makes everyone on the offense better...and it's simply an interchangeable offense as long as #18 is there...

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

This is a solid post.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

But you know exactly what's been missing there: QB. And they've also done a terrible job trying to acquire a legit #1 WR.

Mason is money for a ton of receptions--much appreciated in PPR leagues--but he's not a game changer.

With Boldin and, I believe, an ascending Flacco, Baltimore is going to be a really solid team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.

You act as if there aren't 31 other teams trying to get to the SB as well.

You really want to use SB appearances as a knock on their drafting?

I'll remember that when we don't make the playoffs, much less the SB under Scott Pioli.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It's amazing that the same 6-8 teams, who are drafting in the 20's and 30's almost every year are the best drafting teams.

Baltimore drafts well because they take the obvious pick, big name guy falls, he pretty much always ends up a Raven. Their team comes up you go, hrm who's the best player left here? Baltimore takes him...

There's something to be said for being smart enough to just take the obvious pick instead of drafting bumble**** mcleadership from slapdick U because you must show how brilliant you are or value things that aren't talent.

[ILChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Baltimore drafts well because they take the obvious pick, big name guy falls, he pretty much always ends up a Raven. Their team comes up you go, hrm who's the best player left here? Baltimore takes him...

There's something to be said for being smart enough to just take the obvious pick instead of drafting bumble**** mcleadership from slapdick U because you must show how brilliant you are or value things that aren't talent.

So if Washington had taken Berry, we should have taken Okung correct? He would have been arguably the best guy on the board

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by ILChief

So if Washington had taken Berry, we should have taken Okung correct? He would have been arguably the best guy on the board

That's an arguable point, what I'm saying is you never see Baltimore make picks like Tyson Alualu or see them take some guy in the 3rd round that everyone goes "uh who?"

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Baltimore drafts well because they take the obvious pick, big name guy falls, he pretty much always ends up a Raven. Their team comes up you go, hrm who's the best player left here? Baltimore takes him...

There's something to be said for being smart enough to just take the obvious pick instead of drafting bumble**** mcleadership from slapdick U because you must show how brilliant you are or value things that aren't talent.

And when was the last time that this amazing drafting led to an AFC Championship, let alone a Super Bowl?