Boy's Wrestling move= Sexual Assualt Charge

[Jawshco]

I'm not sure what to think about this, but I'm just tired of sue happy parents trying to wussify our kids. Although, I admit this is kind of messed up.

http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/12/07/...-wrestler.html


DA offers wrestler deal in sexual battery case

Posted at 11:32 PM on Tuesday, Dec. 07, 2010
By Pablo Lopez / The Fresno Bee Share133

Was Clovis wrestler's legal move an illegal act?

In a crowded gym during practice in front of parents and coaches, the Buchanan High School wrestler tackled a teammate and executed a move his coaches taught him.
He inserted his fingers between the boy's buttocks.
It's called the "butt drag," in which a wrestler grabs a rival's butt cheek and puts fingers in the anus to get leverage. The move is widely used at matches around the country and has been around for decades.

Prosecutors have offered a deal to a California teen wrestler charged with sexual battery for ramming his fingers into the rectum of his high school opponent during a practice match.
The 17-year-old Clovis youth, who has been expelled by the school, faces trial in Fresno on Thursday.
Clovis police say the July penetration incident led to the charge, but defense lawyer Stephen Quade says the teenager used a legitimate wrestling move called the "butt drag."


I suppose it's too late for apologies and rational discussion in the case of the wrestling move that Clovis police and the Fresno County District Attorney's Office say was sexual battery.
We're not much for letting principals, parents, coaches and young people work things out for the benefit of all parties these days. Instead, we're quick to call the cops or the lawyers or the media and move school disputes into the public arena -- where opinions form hard and fast and students may lose their privacy.
If you missed the story, here's the summary. A former Buchanan High School wrestler is headed to a juvenile court trial Thursday on allegations that he committed a misdemeanor on a younger teammate by performing a "butt drag" during a practice session last summer.

The pending trial of a former Buchanan High wrestler charged with a sex crime has many in the community alarmed about the sport's already fragile future.
"This isn't good," Sunnyside High coach David Wheeler said Monday. "California has lost college wrestling programs at Fresno State and UC Davis. We don't need any bad attention to the sport if we want to keep it going."
Preston Hill, the former Buchanan senior who has since been expelled, faces a sexual battery charge after police say he rammed two fingers into a teammate's anus during a wrestling practice last summer. The trial begins Thursday in Fresno County Superior Court.


The Fresno County District Attorney's Office is having second thoughts about prosecuting a Buchanan High School wrestler for sexual battery.

Preston Hill, 17, is due to go on trial Thursday. Clovis police and the alleged victim said Preston rammed two fingers into the teammate's anus during wrestling practice in July. Preston's attorney says he used a legitimate wrestling move called the "butt drag."

Amid a public uproar over the case that began after The Bee reported it on Sunday, prosecutors met with Preston's attorney on Tuesday to offer a deal: The case would be dismissed if Preston -- who has been expelled from Buchanan -- stayed out of trouble for several months.

Unlike most such deals, it would not require Preston to admit guilt.

But Stephen Quade, who represents Preston, said his client will likely reject the offer because he didn't do anything wrong.



JOHN WALKER / THE FRESNO BEE
The Fresno County District Attorney's Office has offered to dismiss a sexual battery charge against Preston Hill, 17 (pictured with his mother, Kirsten Hill). The Buchanan High School student was charged in connection with a wrestling move called a "butt drag" during a team practice.
Fresno court case alarms wrestling community Wrestling dispute begs for sense Quade said he is prepared to go to trial.

Complicating the case is an apparent disagreement within the District Attorney's Office about how to proceed.

A person with detailed knowledge of the case, speaking on condition of anonymity, said prosecutor Elana Smith is resisting instructions from her boss, District Attorney Elizabeth Egan, to drop the case.

Egan declined to comment Tuesday. Smith could not be reached.

But the source said Smith, a 12-year-veteran of the District Attorney's Office, is willing to stake her reputation -- and her job -- on the case. "She believes a crime has been committed, and she won't back down," the source said.

If the case goes to trial, a key issue is whether the conduct meets the legal definition of sexual battery. That could hinge on the question of whether Preston had threatened the boy.

The boy told police that Preston made a threatening gesture -- he inserted two fingers into a circle formed by his other hand -- indicating "he was going to place his fingers up his butt," the police report stated.

Preston has denied making the gesture, and Quade has said no one else saw him doing it. But the source said Smith recently found a witness -- another student -- who can corroborate the 14-year-old's account about the gesture.

Quade said the offer to conditionally dismiss the case came from Assistant District Attorney Lisa Gamoian and Rudy Carrillo, a chief deputy district attorney. Gamoian and Carrillo are Smith's supervisors. Smith was not present at the meeting, he said.

Quade said the offer was better than the one made several months ago, but declined to give details. Preston rejected the earlier offer, Quade said.

The case against Preston has drawn widespread attention because Preston and his parents contend their son, a senior, was using a legitimate wrestling move on the boy, a freshman at Buchanan High.

They said Clovis wrestling coaches taught Preston the move, known as a "butt drag," and that he used the move during practice in front of coaches, teammates and parents.

In general, the butt drag requires a wrestler to grab a rival's butt cheek to get leverage. Local coaches say anal penetration can occur accidentally, but should never be done on purpose. The move is widely used at matches around the country and has been around for decades, authorities say.

Ross Rice, father of the alleged victim, said Preston is a bully who targeted his son because the boy stood up to Preston during an earlier encounter.

Because of the incident, Rice said, Preston's friends continue to tease his son at school. The boy also didn't go out for the wrestling team, his father said.

Rice said Tuesday that Smith contacted him and told him that the trial might be delayed, but she didn't say anything about dropping the case.

"She's a fighter," Rice said. "She's not going to give up on my son."

[burt]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Actually it is the place to do it. If you take the step you will be thanking me for a long time. Looking back I wish I had taken the money I had saved and bought my own health club. I really enjoyed it.

Currently, I am a "before" picture!

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by threebag02

Jenson71

LoL

a 71 is a 69+2 fingers in your ass

One of the posters here once said he fists himself, that would be a 66 + 5

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by Norman Einstein

One of the posters here once said he fists himself, that would be a 66 + 5

I'm truly impressed, Tom.

[jidar]

Hah.
People should read the ****ing article. It starts out making it sound like a legit wrestling move which is why 90% of you people are on here bitching about the prosecutor, but if you read the whole thing you'll see it goes a little further than that.
The kid threatened the other one before the match by putting two fingers through his hand as a threatening gesture. He went in with the intention of butt rape, so what do you want?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by jidar

Hah.
People should read the ****ing article. It starts out making it sound like a legit wrestling move which is why 90% of you people are on here bitching about the prosecutor, but if you read the whole thing you'll see it goes a little further than that.
The kid threatened the other one before the match by putting two fingers through his hand as a threatening gesture. He went in with the intention of butt rape, so what do you want?

Oh, hell, we were s'posed to read 'n $3it?

Damn.....damn........

[Jenson71]

Originally Posted by jidar

Hah.
People should read the ****ing article. It starts out making it sound like a legit wrestling move which is why 90% of you people are on here bitching about the prosecutor, but if you read the whole thing you'll see it goes a little further than that.
The kid threatened the other one before the match by putting two fingers through his hand as a threatening gesture. He went in with the intention of butt rape, so what do you want?

He knew what was coming. It was consensual.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

He knew what was coming. It was consensual.

[Norman Einstein]

Originally Posted by Jenson71

I'm truly impressed, .

I'll be impressed once you get both hands up there and then sneeze.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by jidar

Hah.
People should read the ****ing article. It starts out making it sound like a legit wrestling move which is why 90% of you people are on here bitching about the prosecutor, but if you read the whole thing you'll see it goes a little further than that.
The kid threatened the other one before the match by putting two fingers through his hand as a threatening gesture. He went in with the intention of butt rape, so what do you want?

So it's okay to do it as long as you don't threaten to do it first?

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Yeah they taught that at fort osage also. Only a handful used it. Also the crossface that was more of a punch.

I wrestled this Fort kid a couple of times (Freshman and JV), and he cried both times. Just grunted and cried throughout the match. I still remember the poor kid's name, just because of that.

[Sully]

Our coach taught, iirc, not to go that route, but he highly encouraged the nut grab to flatten them out.
Same position, same result... Less feces.

And I'm completely serious.

[jettio]

A lot of court cases involve disputes about the facts that make up the story of "what happened?"

Each side gets to tell its own story about "what happened" and ask the fact-finder, the judge or jury, to believe their description about "what happened".

It seems like the prosecutor and the alleged victim, the freshman wrestler, feel like the defendant, the senior wrestler, intentionally shoved two fingers up his azz for no good reason.

The defendant does not dispute that he intentionally shoved two fingers up the freshman's azz, he claims that he has some sports related justification for doing it.

If I were the fact-finder, I might think that a senior wrestler should be able to handle a match against a freshman wrestler well enough that he would not have to resort to such extraordinary measures in a practice match. I would think there is a good chance that the freshman wrestler's contention that the senior wrestler had bad intentions would seem believable.

This seems like the kind of thing that should be decided in court. People that complain about something like this being a court case should explain what the freshman kid should do to seek vindication if he is right that the guy was not doing a legit wrestling move but was being a prick.

Should the freshman wrestler get a baseball bat and beat the senior wrestler's brains out so that he could be the one to go to court for that?

[Dave Lane]

Don't tell Fred Phelps about this thread. Seriously he'll be protesting CP in about 2 mins.

And they talk about the pussification of the current age? I never even heard of grab a guys junk or stick your fingers up his ass. There would have been bloodshed.

[Demonpenz]

I'm off to rent Last Tango in Paris

[Johnny Vegas]

the TSA has been doin this all the time. This is a move that protects national security.