Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action

[Tribal Warfare]

Chiefs buzz: Croyle lacking game action

Practice isn’t like a game

Quarterback Brodie Croyle hasn’t played in a game since the preseason and now will probably start Sunday’s game against the Chargers in place of Matt Cassel. As much practice as the Chiefs give Croyle — it’s a considerable amount this week, but normally not much — practice isn’t the same as a game because it’s conducted at a much slower speed.

The Chiefs in recent weeks had several chances to get Croyle playing time. They fell hopelessly behind the Broncos in Denver a month ago and since then held sizable leads against the Cardinals and Seahawks in the fourth quarter.

In each case, coach Todd Haley kept Cassel in the game.

“With where you are in some of those games, you’re not going to be throwing the football,” Haley said. “I don’t know that you’re not getting some of the same things in practice.”

Cassel didn’t practice again Thursday after having an appendectomy a day earlier. Unless the Chiefs break one of Haley’s rules, Cassel would have to practice today to play in San Diego.

“The policy is you have to have some semblance of practice,” Haley said. “We’ll see as the week plays out exactly where we are. Right now we’ve got two days under our belt, and we’ve got two more left.”

Getting the ball to Bowe

The Chiefs failed to get the ball to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe in last week’s game against Denver, and it’s probably no coincidence they scored only 10 points in beating the Broncos. The Chargers undoubtedly took note of the connection and will probably make a similar effort to take Bowe out of the game.

“That can’t be something that we allow to happen one way or another,” Haley said. “It’s our job as coaches to find ways to help the receivers. It’s the receiver’s duty to continue to step his game up against the competition and make plays. That’s what I fully expect from Dwayne. He’s trying to continue to make steps to being a really good player in the league, and this is the next step for him, going against really good competition that knows he’s one of the guys that gets the football a bunch.”

Wiegmann can relate

Center Casey Wiegmann missed the final exhibition game and the regular-season opener in 2001 after having an appendectomy in a procedure similar to Cassel’s.

“It took me a couple of weeks,” Wiegmann said. “They didn’t want to rush me back too fast. I could have played in one week, but they just didn’t want to risk it for the rest of the year.”

Injury report

The Chiefs made one change to their practice report. They said reserve defensive back Donald Washington (ankle) was limited in practice. He didn’t practice the day before.

Safety Kendrick Lewis (ankle) was also limited. Cassel was the only other player listed, and he didn’t practice because of what the Chiefs continued to call an illness.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

So if Croyle is 0-9, how does Cassel get a pass on the Denver debacle, when he was clearly the one shitting his pants on offense?

Cassel was the one shitting his pants on offense in the first Denver game? You might want to check the first half passing stats vs. running stats and penalties.

[The Franchise]

TheGuardian is just as bad as everyone else.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=35

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

See that is my point, this started out as

"Croyle is 0-9 he is dogshit and why would anyone want to see him play, and they are stupid mother ****ers for even thinking it."/guardasill

So if Croyle is 0-9, how does Cassel get a pass on the Denver debacle, when he was clearly the one shitting his pants on offense?

Any idiot, even one with brain damage from playing Jr. College football should be able to see that.

Cassel shit is pants, no doubt. But the Defense quit on this team from Romeo down to the 15th DB on the practice squad in both Houston and Denver games...

Just absolutley quit on the team... It was shameful and totally inexcusable for a highly paid athlete to quit like that...

[Color Red]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I can't believe how much little faith people have in Croyle. Ya he hasn't won a game. He also played on a team that was fighting for the #1 draft pick. He didn't have a #1 running game to hide behind. Are you guys so nervous because you dont think Croyle can hand the ball off to Jones or Charles or throw the typical 5 yard slants, dump offs, or screen passes that Weis asks of Cassel. Give me a break. The guy can do what Cassel does + some things Cassel cant.

True. True. What would be interesting to see is if Croyle is able to put down his gunslinger mantle and fit into the ball control, "careful" philosophy that Cassell has played with.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Cassel was the one shitting his pants on offense in the first Denver game? You might want to check the first half passing stats vs. running stats and penalties.

YOU might want to WATCH the first quarter of the game again. It was game time, over. Cassel shit his pants all over the FIRST quarter when the game was determined.
But he got a lot of practice in for the next three quarters, and it must have done him some good.
Those wonderful stats that everyone keeps romancing about, are going to help him hit the lottery AGAIN.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Color Red

True. True. What would be interesting to see is if Croyle is able to put down his gunslinger mantle and fit into the ball control, "careful" philosophy that Cassell has played with.

Cassel had a tight leash on him and even still he was throwing the ball into the ground or over the head of receivers 5 yards away from him. But hey, at least he didn't turn it over.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Pants

Cassel had a tight leash on him and even still he was throwing the ball into the ground or over the head of receivers 5 yards away from him. But hey, at least he didn't turn it over.

Eerily similar to the Herm/Huard game plans.

IMO this team really needs a QB that can be turned loose, and that was what was so exciting about the Seattle game. It looked like they had turned Cassel loose to me.

I don't think Brodie Croyle played very well with his hands tied by Herm, hopefully that isn't the case Sunday.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Eerily similar to the Herm/Huard game plans.

IMO this team really needs a QB that can be turned loose, and that was what was so exciting about the Seattle game. It looked like they had turned Cassel loose to me.

I don't think Brodie Croyle played very well with his hands tied by Herm, hopefully that isn't the case Sunday.

I hope so as well, but knowing what we know, I expect to see very little in terms of Croyle airing it out.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

See, I watch the games, you are reciting numbers. Cassel played two good games this year, two. I want to see what Brodie can do, even though it will be a small sample.

The rest of the six wins, was done by keeping Cassel from losing the games. If you know half as much about football as you spout off that you do, you know this.

If Brodie had half the opportunities Cassel has had, in my opinion he would do better. He actually did something in college, besides warming the bench. He was universally acclaimed for his talent. Is he the final answer? Probably not, but anyone that thinks Cassel is, is kidding themselves.

But go on, run your mouth brilliant one.

When you're claiming that Cassel has only played two good games this season, you probably shouldn't be following that up with insults of other people's intelligence.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

When you're claiming that Cassel has only played two good games this season, you probably shouldn't be following that up with insults of other people's intelligence.

No, your definition of 'good' is just different. It's a subjective issue. You think not throwing any interceptions is good. You don't care if he's inaccurate, doesn't progress through his reads, has bad footwork and has no pocket awareness.

[LaChapelle]

Wanting Croyle to do well has nothing to do with hating Cassel
Croyle steps out on that field injury after painful injury and returns and stands in there and takes hits
If you can't find it in yourself to root for a guy like that you suck

[King_Chief_Fan]

Shouldn't title read: " Croyle lacking game"?

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by Pants

No, your definition of 'good' is just different. It's a subjective issue. You think not throwing any interceptions is good. You don't care if he's inaccurate, doesn't progress through his reads, has bad footwork and has no pocket awareness.

No, I care if he's playing "good". I don't pretend that I know what his reads are, for example, because that would require that I pretend to know precisely what plays were called and precisely what every player on the field was supposed to do at every moment. I leave that to the idiots who can't be bothered with honest evaluation.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

When you're claiming that Cassel has only played two good games this season, you probably shouldn't be following that up with insults of other people's intelligence.

Please enlighten me, which besides the Arizona and Seattle games, was he not just a high priced manager not losing the game?

I may have forgotten one.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, I care if he's playing "good". I don't pretend that I know what his reads are, for example, because that would require that I pretend to know precisely what plays were called and precisely what every player on the field was supposed to do at every moment. I leave that to the idiots who can't be bothered with honest evaluation.

Well, it's pretty easy to tell when he stares one receiver down. I mean, whether it's him not progressing through his reads or whether it's the game plan - either one is pretty telling.