Football Mike Vick: I would like to own a dog again someday - Page 9

Deberg_1990 · 12-15-2010, 03:06 PM

Why Mike?? Why??

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...gain-someday/1

Michael Vick would like to be a dog owner again.

The Philadelphia Eagles QB -- convicted in 2007 of a federal dogfighting crime -- has said he would like to run full circle and again own a dog if the courts will allow him.

Vick was banned from owning a dog as part of the sentence handed down that sent him to prison for 18 months.

"I would love to get another dog in the future," Vick told TheGrio.com. "I think it would be a big step for me in the rehabilitation process. I think just to have a pet in my household and to show people that I genuinely care, and my love, and my passion for animals."

Vick, enjoying one of his best-ever seasons after winning the Eagles' starting job in September, has tried to make amends for his dogfighting past.

He completed his 20-month sentence, which included two months of home confinement, and began working with the Humane Society.

Vick was banned from owning a dog under the terms of his supervised release in July 2009. The supervised release was set to run for three years.

Vick has since apologized for his role in the dogfighting ring and he now informs young people about the evils of the bloodsport.

He told TheGrio.com he was around dogfighting from a young age.

"I hate to use our culture as an excuse, but it is what it is and that's what happened and that's the way I thought about it growing up," Vick said. "This is just the way we were brought up."

Vick has said that prison changed him and made him a smarter and more mature person for having to endure the embarrassment and personal pain of incarceration.

And he made an interesting note about what advice he would give now to himself four years ago.

"That Mike probably wouldn't listen to nothing that I had to say," Vick said.

allen_kcCard · 12-15-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

These lists are not rehabilitation, they are permenant scarlet letters. Rehabilitation implies that you could be rehabilitated and there's a light at the end of the tunnel, but there's not. This is forever, guilty at 18 and out of jail at 29? You get to live with this until 125 with no recourse.

The logic that says these lists (and restrictions on where you can live) is fine could also be used to say that these sex offenders should have an old fashioned cattle iron in the shape of an S heated in a fire and seared into their forehead for all to see and avoid. Why not? we can give them painkillers and have a doctor oversee it so there's no health risk.

If we are so scared of these people that we think these extraordinary measures are necessary to be safe, then they should not be out. If someone is cleared to be free, they should be free.

I don't get your point anymore....are your panties in a wad over them not being in jail long enough? Or thinking that reporting their address and work location to authorities is cruel and unusual? If it helps protect kids and women from people that have been proven by their peers to have done something to harm them in the past, then what are you so hellbent against it for?

LaChapelle · 12-15-2010, 06:27 PM

If it's just a case of wanting something because he doesn't think he can have it
that's not a good sign -I'm kinda leary of his sincerity anyway
but it's only a dog

**loochy** · 12-15-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

These lists are not rehabilitation, they are permenant scarlet letters. Rehabilitation implies that you could be rehabilitated and there's a light at the end of the tunnel, but there's not. This is forever, guilty at 18 and out of jail at 29? You get to live with this until 125 with no recourse.

The logic that says these lists (and restrictions on where you can live) is fine could also be used to say that these sex offenders should have an old fashioned cattle iron in the shape of an S heated in a fire and seared into their forehead for all to see and avoid. Why not? we can give them painkillers and have a doctor oversee it so there's no health risk.

If we are so scared of these people that we think these extraordinary measures are necessary to be safe, then they should not be out. If someone is cleared to be free, they should be free.

Hell, I'm all for this. "Why not?" is right.

However, I'd rather them have a brand of a penis on their forehead, not an S. It would be a sort of permanent mushroom stamp.

**loochy** · 12-15-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

If it's just a case of wanting something because he doesn't think he can have it
that's not a good sign -I'm kinda leary of his sincerity anyway
but it's only a dog

Only a dog? ONLY A DOG?!?!?!

Hehe, yeah its just a dog.

**alnorth** · 12-15-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

I don't get your point anymore....are your panties in a wad over them not being in jail long enough? Or thinking that reporting their address and work location to authorities is cruel and unusual? If it helps protect kids and women from people that have been proven by their peers to have done something to harm them in the past, then what are you so hellbent against it for?

Its principle. My criminal record is clean (except 3 or 4 speeding tickets), and I know of no one personally who is impacted. I sincerely believe if you are free, you should be free, none of this half-assed bullsh*t.

If anything, these lists could be dangerous to the very people you want to protect. Having these lists available makes it more likely that we decide its ok to let an iffy marginal case go "well, the public will be informed so our conscience is clear. If someone is hurt, oh well we did the best we could." Bullcrap, if someone wants to reoffend you think a damned list will stop them? Your kids wont memorize faces and even if they do they would be ambushed. The offenders are also usually capable of walking more than 1,000 feet at a time.

Its security theater to give you the false illusion that you know where all the bad people are, so you feel safer. Well you arent safer, to the extent that danger exists, these lists do squat, all you do is make life miserable for the Romeo and Juliet bullcrap cases who shouldnt be on the list while not protecting anyone at all from the people you are scared of.

If someone is dangerous, dont think that a list will make everything all better, increase the sentences or declare them legally crazy.

Pioli Zombie · 12-15-2010, 07:13 PM

In a related story, Steelers QB Ben Roethlisburger has told friends he would like to settle down and force himself on the right girl.

Brock · 12-15-2010, 07:37 PM

At first glance, I thought the title was Mike Vick: I would like to drown a dog again someday

WebGem · 12-15-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey23545

Oh for ****s sake...Are you serious?

This is equivalent to a convicted pedophile musing over trying adoption again..

You're a ****ing idiot.

**Bane** · 12-15-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFan5840

You're and ****ing idiot.

fyp

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-15-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

If anything, these lists could be dangerous to the very people you want to protect. Having these lists available makes it more likely that we decide its ok to let an iffy marginal case go "well, the public will be informed so our conscience is clear. If someone is hurt, oh well we did the best we could."

Again, your logic is massively flawed. Your example of a 'marginal case' where someone is KNOWN to be very dangerous (immediate danger) still, but released anyway is bogus...Please show some evidence for this. How is having a list MORE dangerous than not having a list for the community?

In the VAST majority of these cases both the prisoner AND the prison system wish for the prisoner to be released....the prisoner having served their time. Again, how is having a list more dangerous than not, when we are BOUND to release these prisoners?

If you have a problem with the length of punishment for certain crimes, that is a completely separate issue than a list....I mean if you think the time served should be 'life in prison, or until we can show 100% that this person will never commit a crime again' that is an even higher standard than murder....I could possibly agree with it though.

It seems like you don't really understand what you are even arguing for...

-King- · 12-15-2010, 08:02 PM

@ People acting like he has an uncontrollable urge to kill dogs.

Yes, he should be allowed to own a dog.

Comparing a dog to anything human is pretty much reeruned.

Simply Red · 12-15-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I wonder how OJ feels about having another ex-wife again someday?

Yeah but didn't he catch the AIDS? oh wait, that was Magic Johnson

WebGem · 12-15-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

:lmao: @ People acting like he has an uncontrollable urge to kill dogs.

Yes, he should be allowed to own a dog.

Comparing a dog to anything human is pretty much reeruned.

No shit.

WV · 12-15-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

In a related story, Steelers QB Ben Roethlisburger has told friends he would like to settle down and force himself on the right girl.

**Shogun** · 12-15-2010, 08:23 PM

I think he should be able to.

12-15-2010, 03:06 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $14454	Mike Vick: I would like to own a dog again someday Why Mike?? Why?? http://content.usatoday.com/communit...gain-someday/1 Michael Vick would like to be a dog owner again. The Philadelphia Eagles QB -- convicted in 2007 of a federal dogfighting crime -- has said he would like to run full circle and again own a dog if the courts will allow him. Vick was banned from owning a dog as part of the sentence handed down that sent him to prison for 18 months. "I would love to get another dog in the future," Vick told TheGrio.com. "I think it would be a big step for me in the rehabilitation process. I think just to have a pet in my household and to show people that I genuinely care, and my love, and my passion for animals." Vick, enjoying one of his best-ever seasons after winning the Eagles' starting job in September, has tried to make amends for his dogfighting past. He completed his 20-month sentence, which included two months of home confinement, and began working with the Humane Society. Vick was banned from owning a dog under the terms of his supervised release in July 2009. The supervised release was set to run for three years. Vick has since apologized for his role in the dogfighting ring and he now informs young people about the evils of the bloodsport. He told TheGrio.com he was around dogfighting from a young age. "I hate to use our culture as an excuse, but it is what it is and that's what happened and that's the way I thought about it growing up," Vick said. "This is just the way we were brought up." Vick has said that prison changed him and made him a smarter and more mature person for having to endure the embarrassment and personal pain of incarceration. And he made an interesting note about what advice he would give now to himself four years ago. "That Mike probably wouldn't listen to nothing that I had to say," Vick said.
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