Sac's 1/22 Mock (Official Underclassman Draft)

[Saccopoo]

Tackle was the way it fell.

Wisniewski is a very good player, but Wiegmann was the best player on the offensive line last year. There is no depth as the Chiefs only had three tackles on the roster and none of them are worth a damn.

And I think that Costanzo is a very good player. He's a solid tackle. If you bitch about picking one up at 21 after watching Richardson, Albert and O'Murphy flail about this past season, you are nuts.

Pioli screwed himself in 2009 and 2010. He could have easily have taken a quality tackle at any point in those drafts and upgraded the position. And it didn't have to be Okung for Berry. Beadles over McCluster would have been awesome. Monroe, Oher or Mack over Jackson would have been great. (Sanchez or Curry over Jackson would have been great.) Now he's stuck with three stiffs who can't compete at the NFL level and is basically forced to take a guy in this draft. Like I predicted the past two seasons.

And yet, even after watching our offensive tackles struggle, people around here still want to take a 3-4 defensive end. After we have already used two top five draft picks on that position the last three years. Jesus H. Keerist.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Tackle was the way it fell.

Wisniewski is a very good player, but Wiegmann was the best player on the offensive line last year. There is no depth as the Chiefs only had three tackles on the roster and none of them are worth a damn.

And I think that Costanzo is a very good player. He's a solid tackle. If you bitch about picking one up at 21 after watching Richardson, Albert and O'Murphy flail about this past season, you are nuts.

Pioli screwed himself in 2009 and 2010. He could have easily have taken a quality tackle at any point in those drafts and upgraded the position. And it didn't have to be Okung for Berry. Beadles over McCluster would have been awesome. Monroe, Oher or Mack over Jackson would have been great. (Sanchez or Curry over Jackson would have been great.) Now he's stuck with three stiffs who can't compete at the NFL level and is basically forced to take a guy in this draft. Like I predicted the past two seasons.

And yet, even after watching our offensive tackles struggle, people around here still want to take a 3-4 defensive end. After we have already used two top five draft picks on that position the last three years. Jesus H. Keerist.

Uh......Who the hell wants to take a DE?

And Weigman wore down as the year progressed, and even at his best, he couldn't get any push in short yardage situations, and he might well retire, which means it an even bigger need.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman

Uh......Who the hell wants to take a DE?

And Weigman wore down as the year progressed, and even at his best, he couldn't get any push in short yardage situations, and he might well retire, which means it an even bigger need.

There has been some mention of Costanzo being a bad pick considering all the talent from 22 to 32 in Wrights mock, and almost all of them are DE's that are being mentioned.

And I don't really give a shit who they replace on the offensive line. They all need to be upgraded. However, Wiegmann was the best of the bunch. The RT position was the worst, followed by LT. At least to me, picking a solid RT prospect at the 21 spot isn't much of a reach by any consideration.

I don't know. This place is a ****ing Twilight Zone sometimes. People bitch and moan about the possibility of the Chiefs drafting an offensive tackle in the first round, a position that most people in football deem as one of the most important on a football team, but they are happy as pigs in mud that we can draft a ****ing safety or center in the first.

I mean, holy shit. It's like permanent opposite world around here.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

There has been some mention of Costanzo being a bad pick considering all the talent from 22 to 32 in Wrights mock, and almost all of them are DE's that are being mentioned.

And I don't really give a shit who they replace on the offensive line. They all need to be upgraded. However, Wiegmann was the best of the bunch. The RT position was the worst, followed by LT. At least to me, picking a solid RT prospect at the 21 spot isn't much of a reach by any consideration.

I don't know. This place is a ****ing Twilight Zone sometimes. People bitch and moan about the possibility of the Chiefs drafting an offensive tackle in the first round, a position that most people in football deem as one of the most important on a football team, but they are happy as pigs in mud that we can draft a ****ing safety or center in the first.

I mean, holy shit. It's like permanent opposite world around here.

I'm not bitching at the idea of drafting a RT.

I am simply pointing out the flaw in your argument against taking a center over a RT.

I agree that neither Richardson or Albert played at a high level, and upgrading those postions would be something to look at.

But I think that concerns about Wiegman's age and the possibility of retirement make it a higher priority.

[Chris Meck]

Wiegmann is the biggest problem on that line at this time in his career. He is too small and too old to get it done. The fact that we can never pick up a 3rd and 1 on the ground ought to tell you that.

Even if he wasn't, he's 38 and probably retiring, so the idea that you'd draft a right tackle in the 1st with huge gaping holes at NT and WR as well as C tells me you don't really know what you're looking at.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Wiegmann is the biggest problem on that line at this time in his career. He is too small and too old to get it done. The fact that we can never pick up a 3rd and 1 on the ground ought to tell you that.

Even if he wasn't, he's 38 and probably retiring, so the idea that you'd draft a right tackle in the 1st with huge gaping holes at NT and WR as well as C tells me you don't really know what you're looking at.

And what are you looking at Football Jesus?

Do you think that yet another first round draft pick on the defensive line is going to solve the problem(s)? That having two first round wide receivers is going to get it done?

Seriously, I hope that we draft defensive line, outside linebacker or wide receiver. And then next year, when we still can't sustain a drive or protect the quarterback, we'll say "Shit, if we can draft an inside linebacker in the first, it would solve all our problems and then we'll win again."

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And what are you looking at Football Jesus?

Do you think that yet another first round draft pick on the defensive line is going to solve the problem(s)? That having two first round wide receivers is going to get it done?

Seriously, I hope that we draft defensive line, outside linebacker or wide receiver. And then next year, when we still can't sustain a drive or protect the quarterback, we'll say "Shit, if we can draft an inside linebacker in the first, it would solve all our problems and then we'll win again."

I've got this covered.

Let's sign Tyson Clabo, Ryan Kalil, James Jones, and Paul Saliai in free agency, then we can focus the draft on BPA.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And what are you looking at Football Jesus?

Do you think that yet another first round draft pick on the defensive line is going to solve the problem(s)? That having two first round wide receivers is going to get it done?

Seriously, I hope that we draft defensive line, outside linebacker or wide receiver. And then next year, when we still can't sustain a drive or protect the quarterback, we'll say "Shit, if we can draft an inside linebacker in the first, it would solve all our problems and then we'll win again."

Honest question, where are you on Cassel? Is he great, good, ok, bad, terrible?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Honest question, where are you on Cassel? Is he great, good, ok, bad, terrible?

I think he sucks. Why?