Sac's 1/22 Mock (Official Underclassman Draft)

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Wiegmann is the biggest problem on that line at this time in his career. He is too small and too old to get it done. The fact that we can never pick up a 3rd and 1 on the ground ought to tell you that.

Even if he wasn't, he's 38 and probably retiring, so the idea that you'd draft a right tackle in the 1st with huge gaping holes at NT and WR as well as C tells me you don't really know what you're looking at.

And what are you looking at Football Jesus?

Do you think that yet another first round draft pick on the defensive line is going to solve the problem(s)? That having two first round wide receivers is going to get it done?

Seriously, I hope that we draft defensive line, outside linebacker or wide receiver. And then next year, when we still can't sustain a drive or protect the quarterback, we'll say "Shit, if we can draft an inside linebacker in the first, it would solve all our problems and then we'll win again."

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And what are you looking at Football Jesus?

Do you think that yet another first round draft pick on the defensive line is going to solve the problem(s)? That having two first round wide receivers is going to get it done?

Seriously, I hope that we draft defensive line, outside linebacker or wide receiver. And then next year, when we still can't sustain a drive or protect the quarterback, we'll say "Shit, if we can draft an inside linebacker in the first, it would solve all our problems and then we'll win again."

I've got this covered.

Let's sign Tyson Clabo, Ryan Kalil, James Jones, and Paul Saliai in free agency, then we can focus the draft on BPA.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And what are you looking at Football Jesus?

Do you think that yet another first round draft pick on the defensive line is going to solve the problem(s)? That having two first round wide receivers is going to get it done?

Seriously, I hope that we draft defensive line, outside linebacker or wide receiver. And then next year, when we still can't sustain a drive or protect the quarterback, we'll say "Shit, if we can draft an inside linebacker in the first, it would solve all our problems and then we'll win again."

Honest question, where are you on Cassel? Is he great, good, ok, bad, terrible?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Honest question, where are you on Cassel? Is he great, good, ok, bad, terrible?

I think he sucks. Why?

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think he sucks. Why?

I would argue he's a lot bigger reason we don't sustain drives than the o-line is.

I'm sure you've said something about him before and I missed it, but then again I only see you bagging on the o-line and how much they "suck."

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I would argue he's a lot bigger reason we don't sustain drives than the o-line is.

I'm sure you've said something about him before and I missed it, but then again I only see you bagging on the o-line and how much they "suck."

They do suck. They hospitalized Huard and Croyle before Cassel even was on the team. Tom Brady would suck balls behind this offensive line. They can't pass block or sustain a drive.

And that's after playing the worst defensive lines in the league in the 2010 season.

When we get a real schedule, it's not going to be pretty.

Personally, I'd love a St. Louis situation. They picked up Bradford, but also Roger Saffold in the second round of that same draft. Saffold was a ****ing stud at LT for them in his rookie year. They've got a lot of additional holes to fill, but they have their foundations set now. The Chiefs got a lot of dog and pony show tricksters (McCluster, Arenas, Berry, etc.), but no substance where it counts. (Specifically the offensive line and the quarterback.)

As I've stated before, if a football team has these three things, they can expect to win more than they lose:

1. Good quarterback
2. Protection for good quarterback
3. Pressure on opposing quarterback with using blitzes/tricks

A good quarterback, given the time, will beat even the very best defenses. But you've got to give him the time. Who he's throwing to is almost a non-consideration. (Look at the Pats Super Bowl teams and tell me who would be considered an elite receiver.)

Chiefs have none of these things other than possibly #3 with Hali.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

They do suck. They hospitalized Huard and Croyle before Cassel even was on the team. Tom Brady would suck balls behind this offensive line. They can't pass block or sustain a drive.

And that's after playing the worst defensive lines in the league in the 2010 season.

When we get a real schedule, it's not going to be pretty.

Personally, I'd love a St. Louis situation. They picked up Bradford, but also Roger Saffold in the second round of that same draft. Saffold was a ****ing stud at LT for them in his rookie year. They've got a lot of additional holes to fill, but they have their foundations set now. The Chiefs got a lot of dog and pony show tricksters (McCluster, Arenas, Berry, etc.), but no substance where it counts. (Specifically the offensive line and the quarterback.)

As I've stated before, if a football team has these three things, they can expect to win more than they lose:

1. Good quarterback
2. Protection for good quarterback
3. Pressure on opposing quarterback with using blitzes/tricks

A good quarterback, given the time, will beat even the very best defenses. But you've got to give him the time. Who he's throwing to is almost a non-consideration. (Look at the Pats Super Bowl teams and tell me who would be considered an elite receiver.)

Chiefs have none of these things other than possibly #3 with Hali.

You sure spend a lot of time bitching about the line for a guy who admits our QB sucks and that you need a good QB to win. Focus some of your energy there perhaps?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

You sure spend a lot of time bitching about the line for a guy who admits our QB sucks and that you need a good QB to win. Focus some of your energy there perhaps?

Like I said, Tom Brady would be dead behind this line. They'd have to pick Manning up with a shovel.

I'd love to have a great quarterback. However, after signing Cassel to a long term, big money deal, I'm not really optimistic about them picking another guy in the first round anytime soon.

As such, if they could possibly upgrade a position in which they don't really have any vested interest in (and none of our offensive lineman are inked to huge, new contracts), and that position is a position of importance, I think that they could and should do it.

We can all sit around and wish that they would draft that mythical "franchise quarterback," but you can crap in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up faster.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

They do suck. They hospitalized Huard and Croyle before Cassel even was on the team. Tom Brady would suck balls behind this offensive line. They can't pass block or sustain a drive.

And that's after playing the worst defensive lines in the league in the 2010 season.

When we get a real schedule, it's not going to be pretty.

Personally, I'd love a St. Louis situation. They picked up Bradford, but also Roger Saffold in the second round of that same draft. Saffold was a ****ing stud at LT for them in his rookie year. They've got a lot of additional holes to fill, but they have their foundations set now. The Chiefs got a lot of dog and pony show tricksters (McCluster, Arenas, Berry, etc.), but no substance where it counts. (Specifically the offensive line and the quarterback.)

As I've stated before, if a football team has these three things, they can expect to win more than they lose:

1. Good quarterback
2. Protection for good quarterback
3. Pressure on opposing quarterback with using blitzes/tricks

A good quarterback, given the time, will beat even the very best defenses. But you've got to give him the time. Who he's throwing to is almost a non-consideration. (Look at the Pats Super Bowl teams and tell me who would be considered an elite receiver.)

Chiefs have none of these things other than possibly #3 with Hali.

Huard mind as well of been using a walker, and Croyle has been hospitalized getting milk out of the fridge