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Old 10-04-2011, 07:29 AM  
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How do you feel now about Sanchez and Freeman at QB?
Suppose the Chiefs would have drafted either of these guys instead of aquiring Cassel. Would they have a better record right now? Are Sanchez or Freeman truly the type of "transcendent" QB talent to will a team to victory? They are probably better than Cassel, but "how much" better?
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #151
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You do know that this is his 3rd year right? And his numbers so far are eerily similar. The only thing that isn't is his completion %.
But he just needs to learn.

This is Cassholes 4th year as a starter, we expect more.

Sanchez is not progressing. He cannot carry a team. Put him on the Chiefs and we are no better or a **** hair better. No way.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #152
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Didn't the Chiefs beat Rivers Chargers in the opening Game last year because of in no small part Rivers wheels coming off fior the same resons I cited earlier?

How did Rivers and his 4700 yards fair in the weak ass afcw?
Just stay down bitch.
No. The Chiefs beat the Chargers in the first game last year because the Chargers ST laid an egg. Did you even watch the game? Rivers threw for 300 yards and 2 TD's.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:38 PM   #153
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But he just needs to learn.

This is Cassholes 4th year as a starter, we expect more.

Sanchez is not progressing. He cannot carry a team. Put him on the Chiefs and we are no better or a **** hair better. No way.
I agree he needs to learn but seriously... he has potential just like everyone else coming out of the draft. He's not close to a top ranked QB yet.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:41 PM   #154
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They both have(will Sanchez did have) very good run games
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:42 PM   #155
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What the hell has Rivers done with everything he's had around him?

Like I said I don't deny Rivers ability, I just like Freemans upside and if you haven't noticed he's an absolute beast.
Rivers is one of the top QBs in the league. He is in our division and has owned it for 4 out of the past 5 years if you haven't noticed. Did you not see what he did last year with all the injuries he had around him? Freeman is an up and coming QB and hasn't proven anything yet. Until then, one would be stupid to pick Freeman over Rivers. Even now with Rivers almost being 30 years old. I know Rivers is 3-4 in the playoffs and he is gonna get another crack at it this year. But wait until Freeman actually takes his team to the playoffs to decide you'd rather have him than Rivers, JMO.
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I agree he needs to learn but seriously... he has potential just like everyone else coming out of the draft. He's not close to a top ranked QB yet.
He is not close to being a middling QB right now.
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He is not close to being a middling QB right now.
Who are we talking about? Sanchez or Freeman?
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:46 PM   #158
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What the hell has Rivers done with everything he's had around him?

Like I said I don't deny Rivers ability, I just like Freemans upside and if you haven't noticed he's an absolute beast.
at least he's won a play off game. last time the Chiefs done that, i was in freaking hisghschool and in a few years (3 to be exact) it will be 20 years out for me. cmon man!
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Who are we talking about? Sanchez or Freeman?

Shit, I thought we were talking about Sanchez. (What I get for seeing quotes and assuming, my bad).

If you are talking Freeman, I am all in. I would take him in a heartbeat though yes he is learning. He is miles ahead of Sanchez on a much younger team and is a tough kid who is the ant-Cassel.
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Old 10-04-2011, 08:33 PM   #160
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Suppose the Chiefs would have drafted either of these guys instead of aquiring Cassel. Would they have a better record right now? Are Sanchez or Freeman truly the type of "transcendent" QB talent to will a team to victory? They are probably better than Cassel, but "how much" better?
Sanchez = Cassel. Good defense and offense around them... and they are servicable.

They aren't playmakers and they don't have the 'it' factor.

Before that draft, I had Stafford #1 and Freeman #2 at QB. Freeman was a risk, but at least he had the talent. Sanchez was a risk with little upside.
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Fact of the matter is, Nearly half the starting Qurterbacks in the NFL now, wouldn't start 10-15 years ago. None of these guys compare to the Young, Montana, Aikman, Farve, Elway, and Marinos' at these stages in their careers.
Serious, drought of talent in the position now a days. IMHO.
You act like there weren't any shitty QB's "back in the day".
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:49 AM   #162
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Good god, that 2009 draft looks horrible now in resrospect. What would have done if you were Pioli????



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Old 11-14-2011, 10:53 AM   #163
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Bj Raji looks good to me.
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Good god, that 2009 draft looks horrible now in resrospect. What would have done if you were Pioli????



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I remember at the time wanting Raji. But sure that would have been a reach at the time... Didn't stop Scott from taking a reach anyways.

To answer your original question, I think both Mark (not that I was ever high on him. Says more of what I think of Matt) and Josh would be much better. Matt Cassel is that bad at delivering the ball accurately.
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I remember at the time wanting Raji. But sure that would have been a reach at the time... Didn't stop Scott from taking a reach anyways.

To answer your original question, I think both Mark (not that I was ever high on him. Says more of what I think of Matt) and Josh would be much better. Matt Cassel is that bad at delivering the ball accurately.
We would still have no pass rush and no QB.
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