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Old 11-09-2011, 08:46 PM  
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Haley and Pioli: A History of Getting Their Asses Kicked
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In KC history, the Chiefs have lost by more than four touchdowns at home only five times, four of which have occurred under Pioli and Haley.
Yep, these guys have a penchant for getting dominated. Let's review:

2009

Ravens 38, Chiefs 24 - A "close game," but the Chiefs get outgained 501-188. Total domination by the Ravens.

Eagles 34, Chiefs 14 - Outgained 420-196. Cassel has a 124.5 QB rating, cus he's awesome.

Giants 27, Chiefs 16 - The Chiefs score two garbage time TDs that makes the score appear closer than it really was. 429-212.

Chargers 37, Chiefs 7 - Pitiful. 403-203.

Chargers 43, Chiefs 13 - Disgusting. 426-284.

Broncos 44, Chiefs 13 - Appalling. 413-222.


2010

Broncos 49, Chiefs 29 - Suddenly, smart fans realize Pioli and Haley are huge frauds.

Chargers 31, Chiefs 0 - 426-67. Brodie Croyle, you say? I say, look at the first game of 2009. No excuses for this.

Raiders 31, Chiefs 10 - 344-201

Ravens 30, Chiefs 7 - Hey, look! 32 games into the Pioli era and the Chiefs are still getting their asses kicked by the Baltimore Ravens! 390-161.


2011

Bills 41, Chiefs 7 - 364-213

Lions 48, Chiefs 3 - 411-267

Dolphins 31, Chiefs 3 - 351-343. I didn't even realize it was possible to match an opponent yard for yard and lose by 28 with NO TURNOVERS.


Summary:

Haley is 18-23 counting the 2010 Baltimore Ravens playoff scrimmage. In 13 of his 23 losses the team has been outright dominated. And THE MAJORITY of those blowouts have come in the last two years when the Chiefs were supposedly "getting better."

Seven of those losses have come at home, meaning that at least twice a year, Arrowhead Stadium season ticket holders can count on witnessing a complete embarrassment. That's 25% of their gameday experiences for the year. One quarter of the time, Haley and Pioli embarrass Arrowhead Stadium.

Future potential blowouts:

@ New England
Pittsburgh
@Chicago
@New York
Green Bay
Oakland
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:29 PM   #16
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The fraud is Matt Cassel. It's Pioli first and stupidest ****ing move and alot of us knew it the day it happened. Februay 28, 2009 is the darkest day in Chiefs history, bc we are actually building a championship roster with a shitty QB leading us.
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Pioli letting Haley get Pandergast still stings my heart.
yeah, except Haley never hired him as his DC...he was hired as a defensive coach with a title to be named later.

He was only named the DC once Romeo turned Pioli down for the job in 2009 because he wasn't healthy enough.

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I think its laughable how some here seem to get a stiffy from talking about the Chiefs losing games over the course of rebuilding years by a greater margin than back in the perennial 9-7/10-6 years.

FFS people...teams quarterbacked by Matt Cassel and missing 4 of its best players are gonna lose some ugly games.
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:34 PM   #18
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The fraud is Matt Cassel.
Does he play defense?
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Old 11-09-2011, 09:36 PM   #19
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Does he play defense?
No but our all pro safety who is out for the year does.

I think Berry is the biggest loss this year in terms of what it keeps us from doing.
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Does he play defense?
No but he's the leader of the 3 n out offense. An offensive scheme that specializes in giving opposing teams more possessions throughout a game.

A real game-changer I tell ya. Can't believe someone hasn't thought of that before.
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Does he play defense?
Losing Berry, as O. pointed out is big.

And Crennel's bend but don't break scheme in a league with rules that favor offence so heavily is an outdated plan that is asking to be abused.
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Losing Berry, as O. pointed out is big.

And Crennel's bend but don't break scheme in a league with rules that favor offence so heavily is an outdated plan that is asking to be abused.
Good point, Crennel is part of the problem, too.
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Notice in micd up that some of the players were talking about the scheme as being part of the problem on the defense against Miami.

Haley returns with something like "the scheme is not the problem"
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Losing Berry, as O. pointed out is big.

And Crennel's bend but don't break scheme in a league with rules that favor offence so heavily is an outdated plan that is asking to be abused.
It was pointed out in a different thread, but losing Berry with teh shit we now have to put in the back 7 has greatly affected our defense on multiple levels.

Berry allowed Lewis to pretty much play center field all the time and move around more. With Berry back there it was alot easier to bring 5 or 6 on a blitz as he could get to places that McGraw or whoever can't get too.
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If Clay were our GM we would have different coaches daily. I think coaching makes a difference but at some point, players have to be held accountable.
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I would hate to see Clay if our organization was run like the Cowboys or the Faid. He'd be on the ledge all the time.
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If your scheme and lack of talent in key areas lead to your defense to giving up points, you're going to get blown out if you have a liability at QB and you can't respond with points of your own.
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If your scheme and lack of talent in key areas lead to your defense to giving up points, you're going to get blown out if you have a liability at QB and you can't respond with points of your own.
This.


I think a playmaking safety has become the most important position on a defense. Maybe a close second to pass rusher. Berry just brings so much versatility to that spot. He can play like a 5th LB on 1 and 2 down and cover on 3, and he is athletic enough to make up for mistakes when he makes them.
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