Chiefs Haley and Pioli: A History of Getting Their Asses Kicked - Page 3

Hammock Parties · 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

In KC history, the Chiefs have lost by more than four touchdowns at home only five times, four of which have occurred under Pioli and Haley.

Yep, these guys have a penchant for getting dominated. Let's review:

2009

Ravens 38, Chiefs 24 - A "close game," but the Chiefs get outgained 501-188. Total domination by the Ravens.

Eagles 34, Chiefs 14 - Outgained 420-196. Cassel has a 124.5 QB rating, cus he's awesome.

Giants 27, Chiefs 16 - The Chiefs score two garbage time TDs that makes the score appear closer than it really was. 429-212.

Chargers 37, Chiefs 7 - Pitiful. 403-203.

Chargers 43, Chiefs 13 - Disgusting. 426-284.

Broncos 44, Chiefs 13 - Appalling. 413-222.

2010

Broncos 49, Chiefs 29 - Suddenly, smart fans realize Pioli and Haley are huge frauds.

Chargers 31, Chiefs 0 - 426-67. Brodie Croyle, you say? I say, look at the first game of 2009. No excuses for this.

Raiders 31, Chiefs 10 - 344-201

Ravens 30, Chiefs 7 - Hey, look! 32 games into the Pioli era and the Chiefs are still getting their asses kicked by the Baltimore Ravens! 390-161.

2011

Bills 41, Chiefs 7 - 364-213

Lions 48, Chiefs 3 - 411-267

Dolphins 31, Chiefs 3 - 351-343. I didn't even realize it was possible to match an opponent yard for yard and lose by 28 with NO TURNOVERS.

Summary:

Haley is 18-23 counting the 2010 Baltimore Ravens playoff scrimmage. In 13 of his 23 losses the team has been outright dominated. And THE MAJORITY of those blowouts have come in the last two years when the Chiefs were supposedly "getting better."

Seven of those losses have come at home, meaning that at least twice a year, Arrowhead Stadium season ticket holders can count on witnessing a complete embarrassment. That's 25% of their gameday experiences for the year. One quarter of the time, Haley and Pioli embarrass Arrowhead Stadium.

Future potential blowouts:

@ New England
Pittsburgh
@Chicago
@New York
Green Bay
Oakland

O.city · 11-09-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Less than bad does not equal good.

Very true.

**Smed1065** · 11-09-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Less than bad does not equal good.

So U would do better?

lcarus · 11-09-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

If your scheme and lack of talent in key areas lead to your defense to giving up points, you're going to get blown out if you have a liability at QB and you can't respond with points of your own.

On top of that, when you have a bad QB and an offense that can't generate first downs, 3 and out after 3 and out will cause even good defenses to break sometimes.

**Bugeater** · 11-09-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

yeah, except Haley never hired him as his DC...he was hired as a defensive coach with a title to be named later.

He was only named the DC once Romeo turned Pioli down for the job in 2009 because he wasn't healthy enough.

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I think its laughable how some here seem to get a stiffy from talking about the Chiefs losing games over the course of rebuilding years by a greater margin than back in the perennial 9-7/10-6 years.

FFS people...teams quarterbacked by Matt Cassel and missing 4 of its best players are gonna lose some ugly games.

What 4 players were we missing in the 2010 blowouts?

Hammock Parties · 11-09-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

What 4 players were we missing in the 2010 blowouts?

It doesn't matter. We were getting our asses kicked from the first snap this year with Berry on defense, and we were getting our asses kicked in Detroit before Charles got hurt.

milkman · 11-09-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

What 4 players were we missing in the 2010 blowouts?

Against Baltimore, I'd go with Dwayne Bowe.

milkman · 11-09-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

It doesn't matter. We were getting our asses kicked from the first snap this year with Berry on defense, and we were getting our asses kicked in Detroit before Charles got hurt.

Really doesn't matter.

Unless you have the overall talent of the Ravens defense, or the Giants, teams are going to score points.

Look around the league.

Offenses are dominating.

If you can't score points, you're going to get your ass handed to you on occassion.

This isn't the old days when teams grabbed a lead, then protected it.

**Bugeater** · 11-09-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Against Baltimore, I'd go with Dwayne Bowe.

Bowe is 4 players?

milkman · 11-09-2011, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Bowe is 4 players?

Just a name to toss out there among the missing.

58kcfan89 · 11-09-2011, 10:22 PM

It's fair that the injuries hurt us this year, but, as has been addressed here numerous times, if Pioli had used some of that cap space to sign a couple serviceable DBs and built some depth through free agency, we wouldn't be using them as such a crutch. I'm not saying that we could get a S to replace Berry's production, but surely we can do better than Piscitelli.

As for the blowouts, it's not all Cassel's fault by any means, but he's just as much of a constant as Haley & Pioli. If it's not obvious that we need a better QB, well....

Frankly, I'm not very happy with any of the 3 between the GM, HC & QB. I'm still holding out hope that they can get this figured out, but my faith slips with every 31-3 loss.

O.city · 11-09-2011, 10:23 PM

Clay is just wanting attention tonight, more than other nights for some reason. Those three injuries crippled this team.

Honestly was very surprising to me that they won the four they did.

Hammock Parties · 11-09-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Clay is just wanting attention tonight, more than other nights for some reason. Those three injuries crippled this team.

I've been thinking about this post all week.

Hammock Parties · 11-09-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89

Frankly, I'm not very happy with any of the 3 between the GM, HC & QB. I'm still holding out hope that they can get this figured out, but my faith slips with every 31-3 loss.

Bingo.

How many does it take?

I suspect two more of these embarrassments and a lot of people are going to start looking for their pitchforks.

**Bugeater** · 11-09-2011, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

Bingo.

How many does it take?

I suspect two more of these embarrassments and a lot of people are going to start looking for their pitchforks.

Wait until we lose to Tebow...

Hammock Parties · 11-09-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Wait until we lose to Tebow...

11-09-2011, 10:22 PM	#40
58kcfan89 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9653187	It's fair that the injuries hurt us this year, but, as has been addressed here numerous times, if Pioli had used some of that cap space to sign a couple serviceable DBs and built some depth through free agency, we wouldn't be using them as such a crutch. I'm not saying that we could get a S to replace Berry's production, but surely we can do better than Piscitelli. As for the blowouts, it's not all Cassel's fault by any means, but he's just as much of a constant as Haley & Pioli. If it's not obvious that we need a better QB, well.... Frankly, I'm not very happy with any of the 3 between the GM, HC & QB. I'm still holding out hope that they can get this figured out, but my faith slips with every 31-3 loss.
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11-09-2011, 10:23 PM	#41
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	Clay is just wanting attention tonight, more than other nights for some reason. Those three injuries crippled this team. Honestly was very surprising to me that they won the four they did.
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