Chiefs Dick Stanzi - Page 12

ToxSocks · 11-14-2011, 06:35 PM

God I hope this kid works out at QB.....

Win the job in practice this week Stanzi!

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-16-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

In most Hail Mary situations, Cassel takes a sack or throws a check down, so I cannot comment upon his max. throwing yardage.

Let's sum it up by saying this: Cassel sucks shit.

aturnis · 11-16-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

What more can you ask for in a highlight video?

He makes all the throws. Has good velocity on the ball. Moves well in the pocket. Does not panic under pressure. Has the athletic ability to move when the protection breaks down. He's accurate on the run, keeps his eyes downfield......I know it's a highlight Video and all...but damn I think it would be pretty hard to make a video identical to that using all of Cassel's career game tape.

He seems like he has the "it" factor.

Or maybe I am just desperate to see a real QB suit up for the Red & Gold.

The other thing a lot of guys are probably not privy to is that this highlight film is strictly his junior year. It's not a career highlight video, haven't found one of those yet. That's scratching the surface of his junior year. There is another of just his senior year I believe and I don't know whether or not there is one of his sophmore year.

aturnis · 11-16-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That's the thing: Had Stanzi played for say, Oregon State, does anyone here think Boss and Arturis would be pimping him like this?

He'd be just another 5th round pick.

Well I obviously wouldn't have seen three years of play from the guy if he had played at Oregon State would I?

Bewbies · 11-16-2011, 08:32 PM

People are scared shitless of the QB position.

aturnis · 11-16-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Uh, for the eleventy-billionth time, I'm not a Missouri fan.

And you're missing the point completely.

Even if you HAD seen him play a lot, and he didn't play for your favorite team, you wouldn't be swallowing his load.

Your evaluation of him is biased because you're an Iowa fan.

So I'll ask again, hoping I eventually get an answer:

Why was Stanzi a 5th round pick?

Been answered many a time buddy. Maybe in this one, maybe in the
"Cassel out for the season maybe" thread.

**BossChief** · 11-16-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Uh, Croyle had a ****ing cannon. Stanzi's not even close.

Most scouting reports I read on him said things like adequate, average, etc.

I'll try to dig some up.

I dont care to read scouting reports. Ive seen him play in the PS and in college and his ar is well above average.

Milkman was the first person to label his arm as "plus arm" ...I would have but I wanted to wait for someone else to say it...or else I would just get labeled a homer.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I remember watching that game and eviscerating Stanzi for the stupidity of that throw at that juncture. Honestly, it was inexcusable. No need to defend it.

Doesn't mean the player is shit or destined to be Cassel.

This is surely a situation where my fandom may well be getting in the way, but I still think that the RB could have made a more focused effort to get OOB instead of making that cut inside.
All in all, if he still had the TO he tried to save on the previous play (that wasnt shown on that video) we could have won that game.

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

HEY BOSS LOOKS LIKE I GOT THE BETTER OF YOU.

Back to selling cable.

haha

What did you get the better of me at?

I actually remembered the situation with better detail than you in everything but the yardline the back caught the pass.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-16-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Well I obviously wouldn't have seen three years of play from the guy if he had played at Oregon State would I?

I've seen two years of Andrew Luck, and I'm not a Stanford fan.

So I guess it's not that obvious.

tk13 · 11-16-2011, 08:36 PM

This team is doomed for eternity if we don't draft Nate Kaeding in the 2nd round.

Wait a minute...

**BossChief** · 11-16-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

In most Hail Mary situations, Cassel takes a sack or throws a check down, so I cannot comment upon his max. throwing yardage.

Let's sum it up by saying this: Cassel sucks shit.

Can they include the yardage of after the ball hits the crossbar into his throwing distance max?

**BossChief** · 11-16-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

This team is doomed for eternity if we don't draft Nate Kaeding in the 2nd round.

Wait a minute...

Even though I posted it on another board, Ill own up to it.

I wanted to draft Nate in the third round that year.

That kid would kick 65 and 70 yard field goals in pregame (of course they weren't with a rush or anything) and from 60, he would hit most of them from either hash mark.

He was an amazing college kicker.

**BossChief** · 11-16-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

skip to the end for the final drive.

How can someone watch the motion of that RB and say he made a focused effort to get OOB for a FG try?

iF HE IS TRYING TO GET oob, his helmet would be faced OOB, not upfield. Hell, he tries to make a move on the defender and get more yards.

Oh well.

aturnis · 11-16-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why are you so sensitive? People are asking why Dalton went in the 2nd and Stanzi in the 5th when the draft analysts had them ranked similarly weeks before the draft. I'm just pointing out a game where he didn't look so good. Maybe the answer lies in what you see in the video.

PS: Ricky wants his letterman jacket back. Wash it and return.

So the game was played in the rain, the RB's kept slipping and didn't move the ball. The receivers dropped tons of balls, and the opposing team was JACKED. If a RB didn't slip, they made shoestring tackles and really covered our receivers very well. They completely sold out on the pass, it was our only chance, and it killed us b/c EVERYONE played terribly. It was NW's best game of the year. When Persa came out slinging, he REALLY put fire into that team. Cool how it didn't show any of the scoring drives Stanzi led.

Do you really think Dalton didn't have bad games in college?

milkman · 11-16-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

How can someone watch the motion of that RB and say he made a focused effort to get OOB for a FG try?

iF HE IS TRYING TO GET oob, his helmet would be faced OOB, not upfield. Hell, he tries to make a move on the defender and get more yards.

Oh well.

Given the situation on that play, I don't think the pass to the RB was a bad decision, necessarily, though throwing the ball away might have been a better decision.

In the moment he probably hoped the RB could get OOB, but their was a lot of ground to cover for the RB to get there.

The LB on that play had the angle and had the RB dead to rights.
The RB looked to make a move to get some space to run to the sideline.
Had he not, he had no chance to get there.

He never had a chance anyway, but he did head to the sidelines.

Titty Meat · 11-16-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

How can someone watch the motion of that RB and say he made a focused effort to get OOB for a FG try?

iF HE IS TRYING TO GET oob, his helmet would be faced OOB, not upfield. Hell, he tries to make a move on the defender and get more yards.

Oh well.

It was a poor decision and that was one of the knocks on Stanzi was decision making. He also took a sack earlier in that drive which you can't do.

You trying to make a 5th round pick into Joe Montana is laughable though.

**BossChief** · 11-16-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Given the situation on that play, I don't think the pass to the RB was a bad decision, necessarily, though throwing the ball away might have been a better decision.

In the moment he probably hoped the RB could get OOB, but their was a lot of ground to cover for the RB to get there.

The LB on that play had the angle and had the RB dead to rights.
The RB looked to make a move to get some space to run to the sideline.
Had he not, he had no chance to get there.

He never had a chance anyway, but he did head to the sidelines.

Thank you for the unbiased take.

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