Chiefs I've finally changed my mind about Todd Haley - Page 6

**RealSNR** · 11-22-2011, 12:15 AM

Ignoring his unimpressive W/L record as a head coach, it was apparent after tonight that the idiot has learned absolutely NOTHING about being a head coach in the NFL.

He knows nothing about gameday decisions. He goes for it on 4th down at times when the reward isn't worth the risks, and then turns into Herm's vagina when he should (like tonight in the first quarter).

Hiring Bill Muir was a ****ing shitfest.

Not replacing Lilja OR Weigmann in the past couple of games has been giving our shitty QBs no time to throw whatsoever.

Not figuring out how to stop Tim ****ing Tebow by simply PLAYING THE GODDAMN RUN.

Putting your team in the hands of a garbage player that not even amateur leagues wanted over a QB who could actually be better than feces

And there are so many more.

He's been at this position for three goddamn years, people. Most coaches, if they're any good, start to show flashes of brilliance by their 2nd year. In their 3rd year, they at the very least field a competitive team.

He's good at coaching and player development in the offseason? Newsflash: EVERY coach can find diamonds in the rough. Even Herm had a bunch.

Cassel is the first guy who needs to go. But Haley is a pretty ****ing close second. I'll be pretty pissed if we keep this jackass around next year.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-22-2011, 07:27 AM

I don't want another hotshot flavor of the minute coordinator.

Rob Ryan might be different though. Has ties to Pioli. He's been successful more than 3 months.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-22-2011, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'm a Hawkeye fan and I don't want Ferentz anywhere NEAR this team. Seriously.

HE HAS RISEN.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-22-2011, 07:28 AM

The responsibility of the HC is to hire a capable staff. Haley needs to go simply based on the fact that he can't get along with anyone offensively.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-22-2011, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The responsibility of the HC is to hire a capable staff. Haley needs to go simply based on the fact that he can't get along with anyone offensively.

This is a great point.

htismaqe · 11-22-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The responsibility of the HC is to hire a capable staff. Haley needs to go simply based on the fact that he can't get along with anyone offensively.

The offensive "staff" has Pioli's fingerprints all over it.

Don't get me wrong, Haley shouldn't be "excused".

I think the whole lot of them need to go.

Deberg_1990 · 11-22-2011, 07:38 AM

I actually thought Haley was coaching last night better than he has in alot of games this year, meaning he was back to his old agressive ways. Isnt that what alot of fans liked about him? Alot of critisism of him this season was that he has gone soft. Mellinger was saying that he took over playcalling duties last night as well.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-22-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The offensive "staff" has Pioli's fingerprints all over it.

Don't get me wrong, Haley shouldn't be "excused".

I think the whole lot of them need to go.

Haley ran off Weis, a competent coordinator. Haley couldn't work with Gailey. I don't think that Gailey had any ties to Pioli, though I could be wrong.

Haley has picked a yes man to be his coordinator. That doesn't seem like Pioli's handpicked guy.

I think Haley has to grow up a little and be confident enough to work with other competent coaches.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-22-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I actually thought Haley was coaching last night better than he has in alot of games this year, meaning he was back to his old agressive ways. Isnt that what alot of fans liked about him? Alot of critisism of him this season was that he has gone soft. Mellinger was saying that he took over playcalling duties last night as well.

That at least explains why they actually got the play in quickly.

suds79 · 11-22-2011, 07:46 AM

I like Todd but the things I'm having a hard time getting past are...

- The approach to this season with the (I'm smarter than everybody else attitude) which ended in disaster.

- The constant shuffling of OCs because he can't get along with anybody

- And when he could just step up and put it on him, he says "Bill Muir is the playcaller". That was a ch!ckenshit move IMO.

If you could tell me we could get Jeff Fisher? I'd take him in a heartbeat. But considering I think Scott would only hire one of his buddies or some no name because he wants to be the man in KC, I don't see the point. So basically Scott is just as much to blame for the mess we're in than Todd. Probably more.

memyselfI · 11-22-2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The responsibility of the HC is to hire a capable staff. Haley needs to go simply based on the fact that he can't get along with anyone offensively.

I'm not sure there are any good ones out there who would want to work with him. I agree with you.

htismaqe · 11-22-2011, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Haley ran off Weis, a competent coordinator. Haley couldn't work with Gailey. I don't think that Gailey had any ties to Pioli, though I could be wrong.

Haley has picked a yes man to be his coordinator. That doesn't seem like Pioli's handpicked guy.

I think Haley has to grow up a little and be confident enough to work with other competent coaches.

Weis LEFT. How many times does that have to be said? Weis went to coach his son and look how that turned out.

Haley should have never had to work with Gailey AT ALL. The whole coaching staff should have been gone, period. Clark Hunt asked Haley to give Gailey a chance and he did. Haley should have told Hunt no and been done with it. As it is, Haley takes the bullet for Hunt's loyalty to stupidity.

I think Haley needs to be fired.

That way we can bring in Josh McDaniels to hold Cassel's hand AGAIN and he can fail, AGAIN.

Dragonocho · 11-22-2011, 07:55 AM

Haley looked like he's lost this team of backups last night. I think a mercy firing is in order. I have no clue who could work with this team this year and if we do not get a good QB in next season ditto for next year.

**the Talking Can** · 11-22-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Clark got to the office early this morning in Fiji and is looking into alternatives to make his team better...

with giant transvestites?

**penguinz** · 11-22-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

So does McCarthy. Hell, he's borderline special needs in this photo:

He doesn't even realize his neck is on fire.

htismaqe · 11-22-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonocho

Haley looked like he's lost this team of backups last night. I think a mercy firing is in order. I have no clue who could work with this team this year and if we do not get a good QB in next season ditto for next year.

We've got the perfect guy already on the staff. Zorn has already been a complete failure as a HC...

11-22-2011, 12:15 AM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1534792	I've finally changed my mind about Todd Haley Ignoring his unimpressive W/L record as a head coach, it was apparent after tonight that the idiot has learned absolutely NOTHING about being a head coach in the NFL. He knows nothing about gameday decisions. He goes for it on 4th down at times when the reward isn't worth the risks, and then turns into Herm's vagina when he should (like tonight in the first quarter). Hiring Bill Muir was a **ing shitfest. Not replacing Lilja OR Weigmann in the past couple of games has been giving our shitty QBs no time to throw whatsoever. Not figuring out how to stop Tim ing Tebow by simply PLAYING THE GODDAMN RUN. Putting your team in the hands of a garbage player that not even amateur leagues wanted over a QB who could actually be better than feces And there are so many more. He's been at this position for three goddamn years, people. Most coaches, if they're any good, start to show flashes of brilliance by their 2nd year. In their 3rd year, they at the very least field a competitive team. He's good at coaching and player development in the offseason? Newsflash: EVERY coach can find diamonds in the rough. Even Herm had a bunch. Cassel is the first guy who needs to go. But Haley is a pretty **ing close second. I'll be pretty pissed if we keep this jackass around next year.
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11-22-2011, 07:27 AM	#76
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I don't want another hotshot flavor of the minute coordinator. Rob Ryan might be different though. Has ties to Pioli. He's been successful more than 3 months. __________________
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11-22-2011, 07:28 AM	#78
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	The responsibility of the HC is to hire a capable staff. Haley needs to go simply based on the fact that he can't get along with anyone offensively. __________________
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11-22-2011, 07:38 AM	#81
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $104454	I actually thought Haley was coaching last night better than he has in alot of games this year, meaning he was back to his old agressive ways. Isnt that what alot of fans liked about him? Alot of critisism of him this season was that he has gone soft. Mellinger was saying that he took over playcalling duties last night as well.
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11-22-2011, 07:46 AM	#84
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	I like Todd but the things I'm having a hard time getting past are... - The approach to this season with the (I'm smarter than everybody else attitude) which ended in disaster. - The constant shuffling of OCs because he can't get along with anybody - And when he could just step up and put it on him, he says "Bill Muir is the playcaller". That was a ch!ckenshit move IMO. If you could tell me we could get Jeff Fisher? I'd take him in a heartbeat. But considering I think Scott would only hire one of his buddies or some no name because he wants to be the man in KC, I don't see the point. So basically Scott is just as much to blame for the mess we're in than Todd. Probably more.
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11-22-2011, 07:55 AM	#87
Dragonocho Artist of the Bob Ross School Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Lansing Casino cash: $10000533	Haley looked like he's lost this team of backups last night. I think a mercy firing is in order. I have no clue who could work with this team this year and if we do not get a good QB in next season ditto for next year.
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