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Old 12-19-2011, 10:45 AM  
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Shockey rips Texans for lack of national anthem etiquette

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HOUSTON (AP) — Carolina Panthers tight end Jeremy Shockey criticized members of the Houston Texans for not putting their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.

Shockey says he saw "about 10 players" who didn't do the traditional gesture when the anthem is played, and he told some of them how he felt during Carolina's 28-13 victory.

"I was pretty upset in the way they weren't showing respect to America during the national anthem," Shockey said. "This is America and you should at least give respect to America."

Shockey's statements didn't make their way back to the Texans' locker room before it closed, and the team had no comment. Shockey's rant came in response to a reporter's question about the Texans' defense.

"This is America and this is just a game and they should not only be very proud of this country, but very gifted to be living here," Shockey said. "Maybe they just forgot to do it or something, but I don't see how you could forget to do that."

Shockey sports a red, white and blue tattoo on his right biceps portraying a bald eagle draped in an American flag. He caught a 9-yard touchdown pass from Cam Newton in Sunday's game, then pointed at linebacker DeMeco Ryans and appeared to yell at him and cornerback Jason Allen.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:01 PM   #61
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:03 PM   #62
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I think the argument is more about it appearing disrespectful to some people. Talking in class and disrupting the teacher is also disrespectful, writing "clean me" on someone's dirty rear window is also disrespectful.

None of these are illegal or will get you a ticket, and there's no handbook that helps you out in knowing these type of things, maybe it was your parent's job to teach you this respect and common courtesy. Maybe as an adult, it's supposed to come to you like understanding poetry, in time.
Or perhaps there are differing opinions (which are equally valid) where it concerns the SSB, the observance of it, patriotism...and whether the former two are in any way connected with the latter.

Still haven't gotten an answer to why patriotism is an American obligation.

"Because" isn't quite as satisfying as it sounds.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:05 PM   #63
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Or perhaps there are differing opinions (which are equally valid) where it concerns the SSB, the observance of it, patriotism...and whether the former two are in any way connected with the latter.

Ultimately, I still haven't gotten an answer to why patriotism is an American obligation.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:07 PM   #64
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:07 PM   #65
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So patriotism is a mere product of one's geography?
That seems rather...shallow.
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One of the most overrated players in NFL history, and that overrating doesn't even come close to rivaling his stupidity.
I remember watching the first game he played and the announcers were sucking him off something fierce.
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Can you please link me to the other thread you guys did this in? I had tears rolling down my face, I was laughing so hard.
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Old 12-19-2011, 07:13 PM   #68
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I don't put my hand over my heart during the anthem. Never have, never will.

I take off my hat and stand but that's it.

And I'm awesome so Shockey is obviously wrong.
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I remember watching the first game he played and the announcers were sucking him off something fierce.
He was just being a good, loyal American serving his country by playing games
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I remember watching the first game he played and the announcers were sucking him off something fierce.
One of my friends told me before the 2003 season that Shockey was a better TE than Tony Gonzalez. That may have been the first time I ever told anyone to kill themselves.
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Or perhaps there are differing opinions (which are equally valid) where it concerns the SSB, the observance of it, patriotism...and whether the former two are in any way connected with the latter.

Still haven't gotten an answer to why patriotism is an American obligation.

"Because" isn't quite as satisfying as it sounds.


Why does "because" not sound satisfying? You should be a good sibling, parent or child just "because" too. That's good enough for me.

I think being patriot became a big deal during the world wars, anyway - Hitler and ideas of world domination. Is it really so bad to believe in something that you'd risk your life for it? The American dream, etc is pretty corny but still true to an extent. How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
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"I was pretty upset in the way they weren't showing respect to America during the national anthem," Shockey said.
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Why does "because" not sound satisfying? You should be a good sibling, parent or child just "because" too. That's good enough for me.

I think being patriot became a big deal during the world wars, anyway - Hitler and ideas of world domination. Is it really so bad to believe in something that you'd risk your life for it? The American dream, etc is pretty corny but still true to an extent. How about freedoms we have here that do not exist in other countries?
Because isn't a satisfactory argument, that's why.
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