what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk?

[wutamess]

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

[Stryker]

Orton is not the answer - he is a "short" term solution. Ditch Cassel and Palko, draft a QB in the first and keep Stanzi and Orton (1 yr. contract ?).

What would you say if the zebra shows his stripes in the next 2 games? Will he still be the "answer"? I like him better than Cassel but not as a permenant solution.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

DaKCman

What is the hit if we cut cassel??

I'm not 100% certain of the cap implications but all of the guaranteed money has already been paid, so the cash hit to Hunt is basically zero.

[chiefscafan]

Yes because add Hightower this D becomes elite and makes up for a lot of defficiencies.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

DaKCman

What is the hit if we cut cassel??

Who cares? We've been operating $30mil under the cap.

[ChiefsCountry]

Hightower will be available in the 2nd round.

[chiefscafan]

Hmm thanks hts

I thought that I'm hoping pioli moves on from cassel not sure if he will though

[chiefscafan]

I'm saying we should draft the guy reminds me of ray Lewis a beast on the field

[durtyrute]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

We also have no idea how the combined multiple picks (however many) used ot move up will play in the NFL. It's all uncertain. You're using the excuse of uncertainty to not give up uncertainty. It's completely illogical.

No, I'm using the fact that we just drafted a QB, that we haven't even seen, and the fact that we have one now, that will do for a few years, as an excuse. If the BPA is a QB so be it. I'm not selling my soul for anyone in the draft. Let Stanzi and the unknown battle it out. I'm all about getting a shiny new QB but I'm not giving up 2 first and 2 seconds or whatever unreasonable crap you guys are throwing out. If it's something like this years 1st and next years 2 second, I'll do that, but I'm not going to go all crazy for anyone.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by durtyrute

No, I'm using the fact that we just drafted a QB, that we haven't even seen, and the fact that we have one now, that will do for a few years, as an excuse. If the BPA is a QB so be it. I'm not selling my soul for anyone in the draft. Let Stanzi and the unknown battle it out. I'm all about getting a shiny new QB but I'm not giving up 2 first and 2 seconds or whatever unreasonable crap you guys are throwing out. If it's something like this years 1st and next years 2 second, I'll do that, but I'm not going to go all crazy for anyone.

If the BPA is a WR do you draft him?
If the BPA is a SS do you draft him?
If the BPA is a CB do you draft him (assuming Carr is re-signed)?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Why draft a QB when we can pick up a RT, NT, sign Orton and be ready for a Super Bowl run?

Sure is ****ing sad how people around here will get on their knees for the first 299-yard passer that buys the fanbase a drink.

[durtyrute]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

If the BPA is a WR do you draft him?
If the BPA is a SS do you draft him?
If the BPA is a CB do you draft him (assuming Carr is re-signed)?

Good point, I'll go BPA in a position of need. I'm not drafting any of those that you put up, not in the first. If it's a QB then great. I'm just not up for throwing eight picks for one player. Shit, I still want to see what Stanzi has.

[Reaper16]

In the words of the great htismaqe: "Better than bad ≠ good"

[chiefscafan]

I'm tired of the OT in first talk every year. We can get one in later rounds or free agency.


If we want a new face of franchise trade up get QB sign orton and let the fun begin.

If not then trade down draft the one thing this D needs a ILB by DJ the thumper to shut down runs up the middle.

This team isn't as far away as most think

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by jidar

The Orton thing

It's the best QB play we've seen in awhile, but that's not saying much.
I'm okay with Orton at QB, but I realize it's mostly because I've seen such shitty QB play here for the past few years. When you're eating ramen noodles every day then microwave pizza seems like gourmet fare. Thing is, you'll get tired of Microwave pizza pretty quick too and then we'll all be back to bitching about drafting a QBOTF.

Orton had a really good game against Green Bay by anybody's standards.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

I'm tired of the OT in first talk every year. We can get one in later rounds or free agency.


If we want a new face of franchise trade up get QB sign orton and let the fun begin.

If not then trade down draft the one thing this D needs a ILB by DJ the thumper to shut down runs up the middle.

This team isn't as far away as most think

If you want to shut down runs up the middle, we need a NT.