what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk?

[wutamess]

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Uh huh.

He probably gives Brandon Albert the wrong snap count once or twice a game just to draw attention away from himself.

I hear he leaves the toilet seat up too.

That mother****er is no good on any level.

You're kind of a one trick pony, aint ya?

Good night.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by wutamess

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

I agree,your right.Ortons everything you need in a qb,screw all you that disagree

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Im sorry. I was basing it on more than one game. Also left a link up so you could look at the numbers for yourself. I recommend you check out how each lineman grades out as well.

You dont have to take my word for it. The proof is easy to find (if youre willing to see it). Some are so invested in tyhier opinion, the obvious has become a rare affair.

I don't need any ****ing numbers to tell me Orton played better Sunday than Cassel has EVER played as a Chief.

How many times was Orton sacked?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by eric007

I agree,your right.Ortons everything you need in a qb,screw all you that disagree

Of course is! That's why he's on his third team.

[Mr. Laz]

I think the Rams should cut Bradford ... i'm mean he is doing such a shitty job of making everyone else around him better.

McDaniels - shitty coaching should be handled by Bradford
Shitty Oline - no excuse, Mr. Bradford
crappy WR's - throw it better
shitty Defense - scored more points

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Laz

I think the Rams should cut Bradford ... i'm mean he is doing such a shitty job of making everyone else around him better.

McDaniels - shitty coaching should be handled by Bradford
Shitty Oline - no excuse, Mr. Bradford
crappy WR's - throw it better
shitty Defense - scored more points

I bet it hasn't even occured to you that the "drafturbators" that believed that Bradford wasn't all that were actually right?

[MahiMike]

Orton is da man! He finally has the weapons and coach to be successful.

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by milkman

Do a quick search of O-line play throughout the league, you'll find that teams with good QBs have fewer false start penalties than teams with bad QBs.

So, yes, Cassel does have an affect.

See what I mean? You have been sooooo invested in the Cassel rhetoric around here you dont even realize how stupid it is to blame the QB for Albert to jump 1-2 times a game. Why dont the rest of them jump as often if its all Cassels fault?

Man, you been cryin so long you forgot you had to make sense. How am I supposed to take that shit seriously?

So what are you trying to say, we could use a better QB? I belive we already agree on that. But you're gonna have trouble convincing me that the o linemen themselves aren't responsible for jumping. Its a lack of discipline on the o linemean. Not tyhe QB damn

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by milkman

I bet it hasn't even occured to you that the "drafturbators" that believed that Bradford wasn't all that were actually right?

Laz always has to be butthurt over something, everybody blaming Cassel is his new butthurt thing.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Laz always has to be butthurt over something, everybody blaming Cassel is his new butthurt thing.

He has got to be the biggest bitch here.

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by Laz

I think the Rams should cut Bradford ... i'm mean he is doing such a shitty job of making everyone else around him better.

McDaniels - shitty coaching should be handled by Bradford
Shitty Oline - no excuse, Mr. Bradford
crappy WR's - throw it better
shitty Defense - scored more points

You forgot the defense.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

You forgot the defense.

He mentioned defense you dense stupid ****er.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by wutamess

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

He is so far above Cassel it's crazy. That being said, Orton is probably a slightly above average QB. Last year in Denver he had no running game and no defense. This year they got rid of all their good WR's and Denver is winning by gimmick though I think their defense and running game is pretty good. Tebow will not be their answer unless he gets a lot better throwing the ball.

Back to Orton though, pocket presence, goes through progressions and throws a good ball. The first long pass he hit to Pope he pump faked to the right, waited for the double-move to open, when it didn't he immediately went to the other side of the field where our TE was wide open 30 yards down field and threw a laser.

Cassel could never do that.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

See what I mean? You have been sooooo invested in the Cassel rhetoric around here you dont even realize how stupid it is to blame the QB for Albert to jump 1-2 times a game. Why dont the rest of them jump as often if its all Cassels fault?

Man, you been cryin so long you forgot you had to make sense. How am I supposed to take that shit seriously?

So what are you trying to say, we could use a better QB? I belive we already agree on that. But you're gonna have trouble convincing me that the o linemen themselves aren't responsible for jumping. Its a lack of discipline on the o linemean. Not tyhe QB damn

Albert jumps 1 or 2 times a game?

He has 6 false starts, you useless dumbass.

[CrazyHorse]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Laz always has to be butthurt over something, everybody blaming Cassel is his new butthurt thing.

Do you ever talk football. All night all you do is throw shit. You have nothing resembling insight or rebuttal. What? You dont think peope recognize that you cant argue, so you just throw a fit insted. thats weak shit, bud. If you cant run with the big dogs, keep your ass on the porch.