Chiefs what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? - Page 28

wutamess · 12-20-2011, 08:30 AM

OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me.

I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid.

I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton.

I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!

ChiefsCountry · 12-21-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Do you ever talk football. All night all you do is throw shit. You have nothing resembling insight or rebuttal. What? You dont think peope recognize that you cant argue, so you just throw a fit insted. thats weak shit, bud. If you cant run with the big dogs, keep your ass on the porch.

I talk football way more than your dumbass, but why spend my time with an argument when a dumb ****er like you who knows nothing about football. I have argued with your dumbass for along time but you are just a stupid ****ing idiot.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Do you ever talk football. All night all you do is throw shit. You have nothing resembling insight or rebuttal. What? You dont think peope recognize that you cant argue, so you just throw a fit insted. thats weak shit, bud. If you cant run with the big dogs, keep your ass on the porch.

Don't post stupid comments and this wont happen.

CrazyHorse · 12-21-2011, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Albert jumps 1 or 2 times a game?

He has 6 false starts, you useless dumbass.

He has more than anyone else. Or at least it seems like it.

I guess Cassels not as bad as we thought then, huh? Seeing as how its his fault for jumping. And you calling anyone a dumbass is a riot. It also means Im winning the debate. Dont be angry.

It hasn't been that difficult.

I guess Ill go to bed now. You're free to insult me, throw up BS stats or anything else you would do knowing Im not here. Have a great night and an even better Christmas.

God Bless you.

CrazyHorse · 12-21-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Don't post stupid comments and this wont happen.

Oh, I see. Im being puinished.

**petegz28** · 12-21-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

He has more than anyone else. Or at least it seems like it.

I guess Cassels not as bad as we thought then, huh? Seeing as how its his fault for jumping. And you calling anyone a dumbass is a riot. It also means Im winning the debate. Dont be angry.

It hasn't been that difficult.

I guess Ill go to bed now. You're free to insult me, throw up BS stats or anything else you would do knowing Im not here. Have a great night and an even better Christmas.

God Bless you.

Pope probably has more and is in less.

CrazyHorse · 12-21-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I talk football way more than your dumbass, but why spend my time with an argument when a dumb ****er like you who knows nothing about football. I have argued with your dumbass for along time but you are just a stupid ****ing idiot.

Sorry.

Its pretty obvious going back and looking at your previous football posts, you're waayyy too smart for me. Carry on stud

ChiefsCountry · 12-21-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

Sorry.

Its pretty obvious going back and looking at your previous football posts, you're waayyy too smart for me. Carry on stud

I am way smarter than you especially about football.

CrazyHorse · 12-21-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Pope probably has more and is in less.

You might be right. According to some, you can blame Cassel for him false starting. Pope shouldnt be held accountable for jumping.

milkman · 12-21-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

He has more than anyone else. Or at least it seems like it.

I guess Cassels not as bad as we thought then, huh? Seeing as how its his fault for jumping. And you calling anyone a dumbass is a riot. It also means Im winning the debate. Dont be angry.

It hasn't been that difficult.

I guess Ill go to bed now. You're free to insult me, throw up BS stats or anything else you would do knowing Im not here. Have a great night and an even better Christmas.

God Bless you.

I don't mince words with the kind of subtle insults you were throwing around.

I was debating civilly until you threw out the third or fourth insult.

I simply returned volley, dumbass.

milkman · 12-21-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

You might be right. According to some, you can blame Cassel for him false starting. Pope shouldnt be held accountable for jumping.

Jake Long has 5 false starts this season.

He sucks, too, right?

CrazyHorse · 12-21-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I am way smarter than you especially about football.

Uh huh.

Im impressed.

Ive only been involved with football for the last 35 years. One thing I did learn however, is that you dont know everything watching football on TV. Especially, grading players.

I know enough to know you're full of shit as a human being. How could i not know that with the post count you have.

But I could definately still learn more about football.

CrazyHorse · 12-21-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Jake Long has 5 false starts this season.

He sucks, too, right?

Jake Long = Brandon Albert?

Ill take your word for it.

Or wait.....do you mean Jake Long is a victim of poor QB play so he false starts because of it?

Which is it?

Ill check your answer in the morning bro.

ChiefsCountry · 12-21-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

I know enough to know you're full of shit as a human being. How could i not know that with the post count you have.

Go fist yourself you worthless cock sucker.

Sutter Cane · 12-21-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

You are only justified in taking one if you evaluate the guy properly. For example, if I am a QB starved organization, and I allow myself to drool over JaMarcus Russel's workout and draft him No 1 overall instead of Calvin Johnsnon, just because I feel the need to draft a QB in the first round and want to roll the dice, and get intoxicated with visions of JaMarcus leading my franchise for the next decade because of all of his physical tools, then I should lose my job. You are better off with Kyle Orton/Calvin Johnson than you are with Russell.

Again, this is not to say you don't take a guy in the first round, it is to say that when you do, or when you trade your entire draft for one, you better be sure that guy is gonna be the difference maker between being an OK team and being a Super Bowl contender. Otherwise you've just set your franchise back another 3-5 years and wasted a first.

Easier said than done of course, QB is a tough position to project from college to NFL. But that guy better be worth that pick. If I have the ability to trade up for Andrew Luck, or if I have a conviction about RGIII, do I go out and try to make it happen? Yeah. But if I am not in a position to take those guys, do I draft Landry Jones because he's there? Not if I am not sold on Landry Jones being a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over who I have at this level, and not if there is a better player available that will also help my team. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and give Jacksonville props for drafting and whiffing on Gabbert because they at least tried to replace Gerrard. They got it wrong, and set their franchise further back. In my book, you don't get brownie points for trying, you better do it right...

Pretty much my thoughts on the subject as well.

tredadda · 12-21-2011, 11:00 PM

I honestly don't get the logic behind thinking trading up for a QB sets this franchise back years if he busts. With the new rookie cap, these players don't cost nearly as much. Also the only way to truly see how giving up that many picks could set us back is to assume every pick we made was a pro bowler or solid starter. Not once has this team ever had that type of success in any draft. Honestly I would give up our entire 2009 draft for a player like Luck or RGIII, although many people would have thought that foolish because that could set this franchise back or it would be too much to give up for one guy.

12-20-2011, 08:30 AM
wutamess MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $4711637	what's with all the Orton isn't the answer talk? OK he has the same stats avg as Cassle. BS! My dad and I argue about the Cheifs as if we're Pioli and Haley. I told him 3 weeeks ago, "dude. We finally have our QB." He looked at me like I was crazy and borderline ignored me. I tried explaining to him we finaly have a qb that can make all of the throws. All he could muster up was he wasn't shit in Denve and he wasn Shit in Chicago. I told him he had good stats lat yar and turned Brandn Lloyd into NFLs #1 wr last year. He wasn't buying it but my point was valid. I further went to explain that now Orton had something he's NEVER had as far as weapons. Now he has 2 BIG WRs as well as a WR that will stretch the field. Add JC and Moeki coming back next year and I think we can be a top 5 offense with Orton. I just don't understand why people think he's a fluke ad try to compare him to Cassle when he's HEAD AND SHOULDERS above Cassel in EVERY category. I'll go so far as to say we don't need to draft qb this year if we sign Orton... I'm als thinking with Berry coming back and a O tackle and another stud LB to complement DJ, we're poised for a SUPERBOWL RUN!
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12-21-2011, 11:00 PM	#420
tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-1974947	I honestly don't get the logic behind thinking trading up for a QB sets this franchise back years if he busts. With the new rookie cap, these players don't cost nearly as much. Also the only way to truly see how giving up that many picks could set us back is to assume every pick we made was a pro bowler or solid starter. Not once has this team ever had that type of success in any draft. Honestly I would give up our entire 2009 draft for a player like Luck or RGIII, although many people would have thought that foolish because that could set this franchise back or it would be too much to give up for one guy.
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