Tebow: The Final Numbers

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.

Good Christ, this is Knowmo level trolling.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.

Jealous of.... Tebow?

Holy ****. I'd sooner give Cassel a lifetime contract and get his face tatooed on top of my head before I'd want Tebow in a Chiefs uniform for a single game.

Good lord. What the **** are you smoking?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.

The rules changes are what they are... the league wants more offensive action.

-Three QBs were 5k+ yard passers
-Ten QBs were 4k+ yard passers
-19 WRs/TEs over 1,000 yards
-21 WRs/TEs over 7 TDs

It's a crazy passing league and while the rules suck to a degree regarding how they call the defense now... it is what it is and I'm a passing fan, so I like the crazy production. That's partly why I watch Denver games with one hand nearly ripping the leather off the arm of my recliner and the other one banging the remote against my forehead.

Originally Posted by bobbything

John Elway was someone to be jealous of...not Tim Tebow.

Very true. Tebow has lots of good and lots of bad... but, he's not a QB that generates a great deal of jealousy among football fans at this point.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Not officiating...league rules changes. The officials out there are just doing what their told. The league has done this...so excuse me if 5000 yards passing doesn't blow my skirt up. I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.

I'm not jealous. Really, I have nothing against Tebow. I feel that he gets a lot of crap from fans because of his faith and willingness to wear that on his sleeve. I got no problem with that. But I have to hope he fails because he plays for the dirty, stinking Broncos. Add to that the fact that he really sucks as a passer and yet the media (namely ESPN) has made him some kind of God like figure. That is very, very annoying.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I am also sorry you and the ilk are jealous of Tebow...which is really what this boils down to.

Yes, we are jealous that you have Tyler Palko Jr. on your team. Just burning with envy.

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Something like 20 QB's passed for 10k yards a piece this year. So many it's not an achievement but a direct indication to the NFL changing the rules that basically state the reciver must be allowed to catch the ball. Dan Marino would have put up 7 k on his own under these rules.

If its so easy, whats your boys problem?

Screw it, let the bronco fans have the guy, hes ****ing terrible, and will only serve to hold them back.

Win for us.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by hometeam

If its so easy, whats your boys problem?

Screw it, let the bronco fans have the guy, hes ****ing terrible, and will only serve to hold them back.

Win for us.

He's not a good thrower yet. Personally I don't give a shit what he throws for as long as we win. At 7-4 on the season, That's what he did, and he had limited experience and no off-season during a coaching change. Now if he doesn't show the marked improvement he made this year, next year, then it might be time to head in a new direction.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He's not a good thrower yet. Personally I don't give a shit what he throws for as long as we win. At 7-4 on the season, That's what he did, and he had limited experience and no off-season during a coaching change. Now if he doesn't show the marked improvement he made this year, next year, then it might be time to head in a new direction.

Yeah, I'm mixed on him... the things that need to be improved are quite honestly the very things I'd expect a QB at this level to have already mastered.

I'm sure there is something to the notion that he was drafted with the goal of not starting him prior to 2-3 years... but, that changed.

There were times this year in games with the Chargers, Bears and Vikings where I thought "Hmmm, they can probably make this work". But, they don't have the weapons that fit exactly... so, if they stick with this plan in 2012, there has to be some serious changes to the offense.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Something like 20 QB's passed for 10k yards a piece this year. So many it's not an achievement but a direct indication to the NFL changing the rules that basically state the reciver must be allowed to catch the ball. Dan Marino would have put up 7 k on his own under these rules.

Yet Tebow can only muster 60 yards on 22 attempts. And you think he's good. I don't get it.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by thurman merman

Yet Tebow can only muster 60 yards on 22 attempts. And you think he's good. I don't get it.

He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.

They should put in some of the plays that made Plummer successful... need more misdirection plays, more bootlegs ... gotta develop that short passing game with the TEs, RBs, Royal and Willis.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He can throw accurately enough.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.

Anticipation and reading the entire field certainly needs to improve... he locks in on a WR and has missed several open guys the last few games.

I don't know if "accurately enough" is a good way to describe it. He can be accurate, but he has a lot of short passes and just as many high passes. If 'accurate enough' means within 5 feet of the WR, then yes...

I do think he is improving at checking his options and going through the progressions, but he is locking in too much on one guy - whether it's Thomas or Decker.

Decker is simply not getting the looks and is missed thanks to inaccurate passes too often. The guy can make some great catches and he also needs to improve his routes, same with Thomas.

The KC game was the worst that I've seen from him... again, it was like he was playing with the reality that OAK had already lost, giving Denver the win and he was just trying to not screw up. You can't play like that. Maybe they're trying to 'reel him in' too much, I don't know.

If you have a guy like Tebow, you have to let him do what comes naturally and trust his instincts if things break down or the heat is on. If that means he runs more - fine, but don't run hesitantly and then fumble right as you're about to make that 1st down.

The lack of a solid short passing game is killing them... waiting until late to pass more often is not going to work.

They have 2 of the 3 things you need to win - strong run game and a strong defense. Special teams (punt and kick returns) has hurt them a lot recently. Combine that with more turnovers in the last 3 games than they had in the previous 7 and it's just a disaster waiting to happen.

Denver can certainly win this game on Sunday, but they can't play like they did vs KC... they need to come out strong like they did vs NE and BUF, find a way to get over the mental hurdle that has become the 2nd quarter and be smart.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Something like 20 QB's passed for 10k yards a piece this year. So many it's not an achievement but a direct indication to the NFL changing the rules that basically state the reciver must be allowed to catch the ball. Dan Marino would have put up 7 k on his own under these rules.

So, you make fun of these guys throwing for 5K because it's so easy, but the QB you perform fellatio on strggles to complete 6 passes a game