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Old 01-03-2012, 12:24 PM   #1
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Something like 20 QB's passed for 10k yards a piece this year. So many it's not an achievement but a direct indication to the NFL changing the rules that basically state the reciver must be allowed to catch the ball. Dan Marino would have put up 7 k on his own under these rules.
Yet Tebow can only muster 60 yards on 22 attempts. And you think he's good. I don't get it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:37 PM   #2
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Yet Tebow can only muster 60 yards on 22 attempts. And you think he's good. I don't get it.
He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:44 PM   #3
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He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.
They should put in some of the plays that made Plummer successful... need more misdirection plays, more bootlegs ... gotta develop that short passing game with the TEs, RBs, Royal and Willis.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:49 PM   #4
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He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:53 PM   #5
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He can throw accurately enough.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:18 PM   #6
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He is good at what he does, that doesn't mean he doesn't have to improve. The biggest place he needs to improve is his anticipation. He can throw accurately enough. He has a decent touch pass. He's good at slants, curls, and okay at post routes. He's good at misdirection. He's good at running the ball and extending plays. His footwork got really better as the season went on. He decent at controlling the saftey with his eyes. And he's learning to read defenses.

This is a good season for a project QB that was considered a 3 year project.
Anticipation and reading the entire field certainly needs to improve... he locks in on a WR and has missed several open guys the last few games.

I don't know if "accurately enough" is a good way to describe it. He can be accurate, but he has a lot of short passes and just as many high passes. If 'accurate enough' means within 5 feet of the WR, then yes...

I do think he is improving at checking his options and going through the progressions, but he is locking in too much on one guy - whether it's Thomas or Decker.

Decker is simply not getting the looks and is missed thanks to inaccurate passes too often. The guy can make some great catches and he also needs to improve his routes, same with Thomas.

The KC game was the worst that I've seen from him... again, it was like he was playing with the reality that OAK had already lost, giving Denver the win and he was just trying to not screw up. You can't play like that. Maybe they're trying to 'reel him in' too much, I don't know.

If you have a guy like Tebow, you have to let him do what comes naturally and trust his instincts if things break down or the heat is on. If that means he runs more - fine, but don't run hesitantly and then fumble right as you're about to make that 1st down.

The lack of a solid short passing game is killing them... waiting until late to pass more often is not going to work.

They have 2 of the 3 things you need to win - strong run game and a strong defense. Special teams (punt and kick returns) has hurt them a lot recently. Combine that with more turnovers in the last 3 games than they had in the previous 7 and it's just a disaster waiting to happen.

Denver can certainly win this game on Sunday, but they can't play like they did vs KC... they need to come out strong like they did vs NE and BUF, find a way to get over the mental hurdle that has become the 2nd quarter and be smart.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:32 PM   #7
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Anticipation and reading the entire field certainly needs to improve... he locks in on a WR and has missed several open guys the last few games.

I don't know if "accurately enough" is a good way to describe it. He can be accurate, but he has a lot of short passes and just as many high passes. If 'accurate enough' means within 5 feet of the WR, then yes...

I do think he is improving at checking his options and going through the progressions, but he is locking in too much on one guy - whether it's Thomas or Decker.

Decker is simply not getting the looks and is missed thanks to inaccurate passes too often. The guy can make some great catches and he also needs to improve his routes, same with Thomas.

The KC game was the worst that I've seen from him... again, it was like he was playing with the reality that OAK had already lost, giving Denver the win and he was just trying to not screw up. You can't play like that. Maybe they're trying to 'reel him in' too much, I don't know.

If you have a guy like Tebow, you have to let him do what comes naturally and trust his instincts if things break down or the heat is on. If that means he runs more - fine, but don't run hesitantly and then fumble right as you're about to make that 1st down.

The lack of a solid short passing game is killing them... waiting until late to pass more often is not going to work.

They have 2 of the 3 things you need to win - strong run game and a strong defense. Special teams (punt and kick returns) has hurt them a lot recently. Combine that with more turnovers in the last 3 games than they had in the previous 7 and it's just a disaster waiting to happen.

Denver can certainly win this game on Sunday, but they can't play like they did vs KC... they need to come out strong like they did vs NE and BUF, find a way to get over the mental hurdle that has become the 2nd quarter and be smart.
Many of those passes you are talking about are throw aways. Which ties in with his anticipation. He hasn't adjusted from College "open" to Pro "open". Half a step Tim. That's what you're going to get most times. Plus Fox is very conservative too.

I disagree about Decker. While I think he's a decent blocker, I believe he has trouble finding the ball and at times creating seperation. Every reciver on this team minus Fells had balls him them in the hands and they dropped them every game. Now Tebow does not have the most catchable ball in the league, but they have to amke those catches every time.

Well see what happens next year, but I love that all the Chief fans are soo concerned that they start a thread every week telling us how bad he is.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:22 PM   #8
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Many of those passes you are talking about are throw aways. Which ties in with his anticipation. He hasn't adjusted from College "open" to Pro "open". Half a step Tim....
And there we have a huge problem. Tebow isn't accurate to within half a step, and he knows it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:25 PM   #9
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And there we have a huge problem. Tebow isn't accurate to within half a step, and he knows it.
I can agree that that factors in to his mental problem. It's something he needs to have perfect by the start of training camp this year. I hope he does.
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