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Old 01-02-2012, 04:27 PM   #1
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...I just don't see how anyone can look at this guy and think QBOTF...
Personally, I'm not convinced that he should be the quarterback of next week.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:29 PM   #2
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Personally, I'm not convinced that he should be the quarterback of next week.
I actually wonder if Fox would consider putting in Quinn next week if Tebow looks like crap again. I don't think he could get away with it from the BEGINNING of the game, but if the score's somewhat close and Tebow has been completely neutralized, you know he'd have to at least think about it.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:38 PM   #3
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I actually wonder if Fox would consider putting in Quinn next week if Tebow looks like crap again. I don't think he could get away with it from the BEGINNING of the game, but if the score's somewhat close and Tebow has been completely neutralized, you know he'd have to at least think about it.
IMO, if the Broncos get behind by two scores early, and the response from the Broncos offense is three three-and-outs, it's Quinn time.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:45 PM   #4
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IMO, if the Broncos get behind by two scores early, and the response from the Broncos offense is three three-and-outs, it's Quinn time.
If that happens (regardless of the result), I might be driven to listen to Denver talk radio just to laugh at all the whining.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:57 PM   #5
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If that happens (regardless of the result), I might be driven to listen to Denver talk radio just to laugh at all the whining.
It might be worth it to pay Tebow to fake an injury.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:46 PM   #6
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IMO, if the Broncos get behind by two scores early, and the response from the Broncos offense is three three-and-outs, it's Quinn time.
Has Quinn got any playing time this season?
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:55 PM   #7
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Has Quinn got any playing time this season?
Quinn hasn't played in a regular season game since leaving Cleveland.

EDIT: Wait a minute. That might not be right.

EDIT/EDIT: Seems he came in against the Chargers, but I can't find any stats.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:00 PM   #8
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IMO, if the Broncos get behind by two scores early, and the response from the Broncos offense is three three-and-outs, it's Quinn time.
Tebow isn't the greatest passer and may not be the long-term solution, but I do know that I've seen enough of Quinn to realize that if he was even marginally better than Orton or Tebow, he would have played by now.

There's a reason he failed in CLE and is backing up in Denver... the guy sucks, he's not a leader. Tebow has what a lot of the "supposed to be great QBs" have lacked, and he lacks what everyone thought would make those other guys great. The team appears to have responded positively to Tebow where the teams of QBs like George, Russell, Carr, Quinn, etc never did.

If you could mix the good aspects of Tebow and someone like ... Romo, that QB could be the greatest of all time.
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Old 01-02-2012, 07:15 PM   #9
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Tebow isn't the greatest passer and may not be the long-term solution, but I do know that I've seen enough of Quinn to realize that if he was even marginally better than Orton or Tebow, he would have played by now.

There's a reason he failed in CLE and is backing up in Denver... the guy sucks, he's not a leader. Tebow has what a lot of the "supposed to be great QBs" have lacked, and he lacks what everyone thought would make those other guys great. The team appears to have responded positively to Tebow where the teams of QBs like George, Russell, Carr, Quinn, etc never did.

If you could mix the good aspects of Tebow and someone like ... Romo, that QB could be the greatest of all time.
You could be correct. It also could have something to do with the fact that as Orton faltered the fans were chanting, "Tebow! Tebow! Tebow!" rather than "Brady! Brady! Brady!"
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:03 PM   #10
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You could be correct. It also could have something to do with the fact that as Orton faltered the fans were chanting, "Tebow! Tebow! Tebow!" rather than "Brady! Brady! Brady!"
Maybe, but I really don't see them making the move because of the fans... if they truly believed in Quinn (remember, Elway and Fox didn't bring any of them here) then they would have played him. They had no idea what they had with Tebow... they knew what they had with Quinn.

I am quite certain that they made the move to Tebow not thinking they would go 7-4 and be where they are right now. I believe they viewed the season as lost and that Quinn wouldn't save them.. only bringing on more calls for the QB that they didn't know much about, so they bypassed the whipping of Quinn starting and said let's see what happens.

Well, there was good and bad... but the good won out to a degree. Can Quinn still start in this league? I'm sure he can, but he's less than Orton and we've seen him and dozens of other QBs that are similar bounce around the league for years.

Tebow isn't a great pure passer right now... he has lots of things to work on, so we'll see if they build around him with players and enhance the game plan a bit with him going forward. Or, maybe they scrap the whole thing... but, despite the ugliness, I think he's earned the right to go into 2012 as the starting QB and we'll see how the team responds.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:10 PM   #11
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Tebow isn't the greatest passer and may not be the long-term solution, but I do know that I've seen enough of Quinn to realize that if he was even marginally better than Orton or Tebow, he would have played by now.

There's a reason he failed in CLE and is backing up in Denver... the guy sucks, he's not a leader. Tebow has what a lot of the "supposed to be great QBs" have lacked, and he lacks what everyone thought would make those other guys great. The team appears to have responded positively to Tebow where the teams of QBs like George, Russell, Carr, Quinn, etc never did.

If you could mix the good aspects of Tebow and someone like ... Romo, that QB could be the greatest of all time.
What are the aspects of Romo that you wish Tebow had?
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What are the aspects of Romo that you wish Tebow had?
The aspect of reading defenses? Or maybe actually making throws?
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The aspect of reading defenses? Or maybe actually making throws?
I don't disagree.

I guess I should probably reword the question.

Are there any aspects that you wish Tebow had that are non-teachable?
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What are the aspects of Romo that you wish Tebow had?
I was using Romo as an example... I live in Dallas and they tear him down every year when they fail like this. Romo has lots of physical gifts that you want in a QB, but he lacks smarts at times... lacks poise and leadership. I don't think the team believes in him, his body language or his desire.

If they're down and look to him - do they believe he will bring them back?

Those are traits that few QBs have... even dumb face Eli has these traits, coupled with the ability to be a solid pure passer. No, he's not the greatest and isn't elite... but there's a reason why he owns Romo and always seems to come out on top when his team needs him.

Tebow has a lot of that... what I wish he also possessed were some of the passing skills. Tebow can make some great passes, but he gets rattled - often times by his own hesitations because he appears afraid to make a mistake and wants to trust his running. That happened yesterday...
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Personally, I'm not convinced that he should be the quarterback of next week.
we could ship Cassel to Denver for this weekend.

i know there's no trades allowed but if he's coming for free maybe Goodell would allow it.
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