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[O.city]

Do you think Pioli thinks he's tied to Cassel? Lie if he fails they both fail?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Do you think Pioli thinks he's tied to Cassel? Lie if he fails they both fail?

I think Pioli views Cassel far differently than everywhere else.

What's hilarious is that Pioli and BB would have cut Cassel in the preseason of 2008. He was actually one of the last cuts but the lack of progression by Kevin O'Connell and Matt Guiterrez. Guiterrez outplayed Cassel in that 2008 preseason.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by O.city

Do you think Pioli thinks he's tied to Cassel? Lie if he fails they both fail?

I honestly don't think Pioli is tied to anyone. Just because he hand picked someone doesn't mean he's tied to them. He hand picked Haley, and then fired him.

Getting Cassel was a terrible decision, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that Pioli is tied to him. Yeah he hasn't drafted a franchise QB, but then again, who in the past 3 drafts has he missed out on?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by -King-

I honestly don't think Pioli is tied to anyone. Just because he hand picked someone doesn't mean he's tied to them. He hand picked Haley, and then fired him.

Getting Cassel was a terrible decision, but I haven't seen anything that suggests that Pioli is tied to him. Yeah he hasn't drafted a franchise QB, but then again, who in the past 3 drafts has he missed out on?

You really don't think Pioli is firmly in Cassel's corner?

The guy has done nothing to provide competition for the guy in 3 years. Nothing. No dependable backup. It was Cassel's team sink or swim with no safety net.

Pioli gave the guy 63 million without him taking one snap as a member of the Chiefs.

Firing a head coach that makes about 2.5 million a year is far different than getting rid of the mistake that has already provided a sunk cost of 28 million and a 2nd round pick.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You really don't think Pioli is firmly in Cassel's corner?

The guy has done nothing to provide competition for the guy in 3 years. Nothing. No dependable backup. It was Cassel's team sink or swim with no safety net.

Pioli gave the guy 63 million without him taking one snap as a member of the Chiefs.

Firing a head coach that makes about 2.5 million a year is far different than getting rid of the mistake that has already provided a sunk cost of 28 million and a 2nd round pick.

Just because he's already sunk 28 million doesn't mean he'll just allow Cassel to keep starting. That makes no sense.

Yes, Pioli thought Cassel was a franchise QB. That doesn't mean that after 3 underwhelming years, he can't change his mind.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by -King-

Just because he's already sunk 28 million doesn't mean he'll just allow Cassel to keep starting. That makes no sense.

Yes, Pioli thought Cassel was a franchise QB. That doesn't mean that after 3 underwhelming years, he can't change his mind.

Why provide no competition either then?

Sounds like a ton of wishful thinking on your part.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Why provide no competition either then?

Sounds like a ton of wishful thinking on your part.

Why sign Orton? I know we couldn't go on with Palko, but why not bring in a QB that wouldn't have a chance to unseat Cassel? We could have brought in anumber of washed up QBs sitting at home that could be signed for a few weeks and dumped, and that would have been cheaper.

I think Cassel very well could be the QB next season, but if the coach believes someone else is better, I don't think Pioli is forcing them to start him.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Messier

Why sign Orton? I know we couldn't go on with Palko, but why not bring in a QB that wouldn't have a chance to unseat Cassel? We could have brought in anumber of washed up QBs sitting at home that could be signed for a few weeks and dumped, and that would have been cheaper.

I think Cassel very well could be the QB next season, but if the coach believes someone else is better, I don't think Pioli is forcing them to start him.

I'm on the fence about signing Orton. I prefer him to Cassel by leaps and bounds, but if we sign him AND KEEP CASSEL, guys like Stanzi or anyone we draft late in this draft will never see the field. The only way I want us to sign Orton is if we actually cut ties with Cassel.