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Old 01-07-2012, 01:40 PM  
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This will be a repeating feature. We will take each position in turn. For each position we will look at the players we already have on the roster and whether those player should be retained, resigned, traded, or cut. We will also discuss whether we need help in the draft, trades or free agency. The first position is the most obvious position for the team QUARTERBACK.

Currently on the roster we have:

Matt Cassel under contract under contract $5million
Kyle Orton FA
Ricky Stanzi under contract approx $550,000
Tyler Palko RFA
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:02 PM   #16
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I say just resign Orton, draft Tannehill.

This team is sorely lacking depth in many areas like OL, S, NT, LB. Not really in a position to give up draft picks yet.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:03 PM   #17
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resign orton, insert cassel into starting role. draft ol
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:03 PM   #18
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But I can't quite figure out what you said.
Mort reporting irsay will pick luck number. one
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:04 PM   #19
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As I've said elsewhere, I think the firing of the Polians in INdy puts that first overall in play.

I package draft picks and players, including our best players, like DJ and Berry, if necessary, to move up to take Luck.
It stings to give up Berry but you do what you gatta do.

I'd make a move for Manning.

With this team, an 80% Manning can win you a Superbowl.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:04 PM   #20
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Oh, thanks.
That helps.

And thanks for pointing out I'm a dumbass.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:04 PM   #21
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:05 PM   #22
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It stings to give up Berry but you do what you gatta do.

I'd make a move for Manning.

With this team, an 80% Manning can win you a Superbowl.
Just say no to Manning.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:07 PM   #23
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It stings to give up Berry but you do what you gatta do.

I'd make a move for Manning.

With this team, an 80% Manning can win you a Superbowl.
Then Manning retires after winning a SB......and then what?
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:08 PM   #24
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You re-sign Orton.

Keep Stanzi, Cassel and Palko on the roster and let them duke it out for a roster spot with whatever new guys come in. Cut whoever doesn't make it.
The problem with that is it's not going to be a fair competition at all. Cassel's clearly going to win due to coaches wanting "experience" at the position. If you kept Stanzi, THAT would be a slight risk, after all.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:11 PM   #25
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Just say no to Manning.
This. He won't even make the physical. He'll retire in May or June.

You guys stretching for Luck, just want in your left hands, handshake yourselves, and clean up afterward.

Trent Richardson or some big-ass OT is what you'll get, for your time and effort.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:14 PM   #27
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Honestly I'd soak up Cassel's contract and just keep him as a backup....first I'd ask him to restructure though. He'd be a good backup. It's the best insurance policy you can have IMO.

Cut Palko, Put Stanzi on PS, draft Tannehill.
Orton
Cassel
Tannehill

Suddenly our QB situation is no longer a situation, and we can focus on other areas.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:16 PM   #28
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This is a team that is built for competing for the next 8 10 years.

You bring in Manning, with no clear plan for the future after Manning retires, you limit your window to 3 years, 4 years max.

It's the same thing they did with Montana.

It's the same thing the the Cardinals did with Warner.

You bring in an aging QB, if it doesn't work out in the limited window, you're ****ed for years after.

And in the SB era, only 3 or 4 QBs over the age of 33 have won the SB, and only 1 of those was on a team that brought him in late in his career.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:17 PM   #29
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Honestly I'd soak up Cassel's contract and just keep him as a backup....first I'd ask him to restructure though. He'd be a good backup. It's the best insurance policy you can have IMO.

Cut Palko, Put Stanzi on PS, draft Tannehill.
Orton
Cassel
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Suddenly our QB situation is no longer a situation, and we can focus on other areas.
You go with Cassel or Orton.

You don't keep both.

If they are both in camp, you cut the guy that loses the competition.
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:21 PM   #30
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The problem with that is it's not going to be a fair competition at all. Cassel's clearly going to win due to coaches wanting "experience" at the position. If you kept Stanzi, THAT would be a slight risk, after all.
Then you've got the wrong coaches.

The traditional formula for contending teams is that you've got your starter, you've got your developmental guy, and you've got an experienced or otherwise highly capable backup. The last two duke it out for second string. I kind of like that formula. Maybe if you're rebuilding you go with two developmental guys, but no coach should ever throw in the towel before the season starts, so let's go with the traditional formula.

You've got Orton as the starter, clearly.

You've got Stanzi or another non-1st round drafted rookie (3rd-7th round, maybe as high as 2nd) as the developmental guy. Maybe if Palko outplays Stanzi he's the developmental guy, but with his lack of arm strength I think he's no longer in contention for this role. He has no long-term upside.

For the experienced or highly capable backup, you go with either Cassel (experience), a highly drafted rookie (1st or 2nd round), or Palko. Most likely Palko won't beat out Cassel, though he should still have the chance. If you bring in a 1st round rookie, or maybe a 2nd round rookie, he can compete for this role as "highly capable" rather than experienced.

The ideal solution would be keeping Orton and then having a 1st-round rookie backing him up and either Stanzi or another rookie as the developmental guy. But even though I think it's a good strategy, I doubt that we'll draft two QBs this year.
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