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Mr_Tomahawk · 06:58 PM

I don't care if this bandwagon smells of piss and is rolling on a donut. At least it rolls...for now!

I'm on this bandwagon until it is pulled over for a DUI!

Sign Orton....**** this Cassl+Daboll talk.

Disclaimer: Yeah I would rather trade up and draft a top-tier QB. But that aint happening...

O.city · 02-07-2012, 08:49 PM

Orton+Charles+Richardson would make us have a deadly ass play action pass.

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-09-2012, 03:13 PM

Maybe Daboll wasn't brought in to help Cassel...rather he was brought in for Orton.

Perhaps it was him who wanted Orton in Miami. Hmmmmm...?

**HemiEd** · 02-09-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda

I would rather have Cassel as weird as that sounds. Reason for that is neither him, nor Orton are good enough to take us all the way. At least with Cassel running the ship he can finally prove to Pioli that he is awful (and does not deserve a place in Pioli's personal ring of honor) and we might finally address the QB situation. With Orton the circle of QB life in KC continues on as it ever has.

He has already proven that, beyond a shadow of doubt to everyone, even Stevie Wonder.
There is more to it than the eye can see.

oldman · 02-09-2012, 04:26 PM

There's no way we'll get Luck or RG3. That's not a reflection on Pioli or anyone else in the front office, it's just a fact. Manning isn't a great option, either, not at 36 with health issues.
The best option I see is to cut ties with MC and sign Orton to a 3 year deal. That will give us some time to draft and develop our QBOTF. Do I think we'll win a SB with Orton? Nope, but we'll be a lot closer than we are with MC.

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-11-2012, 10:27 AM

Bump for safety boobs.

**TimeForWasp** · 02-11-2012, 10:35 AM

I've got the hopes that the reason they have not offered Orton a contract is because we really are going to try to get a QB in the draft.

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-11-2012, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsNow

I've got the hopes that the reason they have not offered Orton a contract is because we really are going to try to get a QB in the draft.

I am not saying that isn't the reason...but there haven't been THAT many FA signings thus far either...

MAYBE 1 or 2 per team.

I would expect them to get Bowe and Carr locked up before proceeding to Orton, if that is who they are targeting.

O.city · 02-11-2012, 10:38 AM

I think Romeo really wants Orton. Hopefully we get him.

I think he could become a Gannon type thing, if put in the right situation.

**TimeForWasp** · 02-11-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I think Romeo really wants Orton. Hopefully we get him.

I think he could become a Gannon type thing, if put in the right situation.

I would like Orton over Cassle too, but if we sign Orton now, we will not have room for a draft QB.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-11-2012, 10:46 AM

I just can't imagine ANY kind of scenario where Orton would want to sign with the Chiefs if Cassel is on the roster. Unless the Chiefs are willing to overpay him to a long, guaranteed contract, which means that: 1) we're committing a shitload of money to two QBs who probably aren't the answer; 2) we hurt our ability to develop a QB in the next 3 years.

The path is simple. Trade Cassel. Sign Orton. Draft a QB in the next 3 years, hopefully sooner rather than later. At least... it SHOULD be this simple.

TEX · 02-11-2012, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsNow

I've got the hopes that the reason they have not offered Orton a contract is because we really are going to try to get a QB in the draft.

This. Also because it means that Cassel will easily win the "competition" at QB. Sign Orton and Pioli's " hand-picked-for-a-2nd-round-draft-pick" QB LOSES the battle hands down, before he can be replaced by QB drafted by Pioli.

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-12-2012, 01:59 PM

Been coming across a handful of articles favoring the Orton to Washington move...here is one of them.

I really hope we sign him as he seems to be the most realistic upgrade at the moment...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...el1Q_blog.html

Posted at 01:24 PM ET, 02/09/2012
Why signing Kyle Orton would make sense for the Redskins
By Mike Jones
It definitely wouldn’t make the headline splash of bringing Peyton Manning to town, but the Washington Redskins might be better off going after Kyle Orton as they look for a solution to the quarterback position.

Not much is better than a healthy Peyton Manning, but at this point, no one knows whether Manning can regain his health, whether he even will be available, and whether he even wants to come to Washington.

Landing Orton involves less risk and could ensure better continuity for a number of reasons, however.

Don’t get me wrong, Orton is no franchise quarterback. A seven-year veteran, Orton has played a full season only once in his career, and twice he played 15 games. But the Purdue product is a solid quarterback who limits his mistakes and has the ability to keep a team in the game.

The Redskins still need to draft a quarterback — whether they trade up for Robert Griffin III or take someone like Ryan Tannehill in the second round — and Orton would make a better bridge than Rex Grossman.

Grossman had the respect of his Redskins teammates and coaches because he’s fearless, hangs tough and fires the ball downfield even though he knows a big hit is coming, and because he puts receivers in position to make plays. But he doesn’t have a conscience, makes poor decisions and too often keeps opponents in the games as well.

So the Redskins most likely have gotten as far as they can with Grossman. An outside chance remains that he would return, but it won’t shock anyone if Mike Shanahan & Co. opt to go in another direction.

When it comes to ability, Orton isn’t all that different from Grossman and is actually a little better.

In 54 NFL games, Grossman has completed 55.2 percent of his passes for 10,232 yards (189.5 ypg). He has thrown 56 touchdowns and 60 interceptions. He owns a career passer rating of 71.4.

Orton has played in 71 games and is a 58.3-percent passer. He has thrown for 14,532 yards (204.7 ypg) and 80 touchdowns, with 57 interceptions, and has a 79.4 passer rating.

That touchdown-to-interception column is the difference.

The Redskins would be able to bring in Orton, coach him up, plug him into the system and basically keep the system intact. The acquisition of Manning would require all sorts of modifications.

Orton likely would be cheaper than Manning, as well. He had a base salary of $4.5 million last year, and probably would come at a similar price. That contract could include escalators that could increase it to $8 million to $9 million depending on how much he plays and how well he does.

Mike Shanahan has said repeatedly that getting a quarterback won’t solve everything. He has added that the key to helping a young quarterback — or any passer, for that matter — is assembling a strong supporting cast.

Signing Orton to a modest deal could still allow the Redskins to meet other needs. They need a big-play receiver, and the top two on the market, San Diego’s Vincent Jackson and Indianapolis’ Pierre Garcon, won’t come cheap. Washington also needs a right tackle, could need a left guard, and on defense must re-sign London Fletcher and address the safety and nickel back positions.

The Redskins, entering Shanahan’s third season, could get a solid veteran in Orton and remain competitive while, at the same time, grooming a rookie who could take the keys in another year or so.

O.city · 02-12-2012, 02:01 PM

We just signed Orton.

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-12-2012, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

We just signed Orton.

?

Nut hooks?

O.city · 02-12-2012, 02:02 PM

Nah just playing.

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02-09-2012, 03:13 PM	#77
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-159474	Maybe Daboll wasn't brought in to help Cassel...rather he was brought in for Orton. Perhaps it was him who wanted Orton in Miami. Hmmmmm...? __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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02-09-2012, 04:26 PM	#79
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	There's no way we'll get Luck or RG3. That's not a reflection on Pioli or anyone else in the front office, it's just a fact. Manning isn't a great option, either, not at 36 with health issues. The best option I see is to cut ties with MC and sign Orton to a 3 year deal. That will give us some time to draft and develop our QBOTF. Do I think we'll win a SB with Orton? Nope, but we'll be a lot closer than we are with MC.
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02-11-2012, 10:27 AM	#80
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02-11-2012, 10:35 AM	#81
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02-11-2012, 10:38 AM	#83
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-765936	I think Romeo really wants Orton. Hopefully we get him. I think he could become a Gannon type thing, if put in the right situation.
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02-11-2012, 10:46 AM	#85
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1805503	I just can't imagine ANY kind of scenario where Orton would want to sign with the Chiefs if Cassel is on the roster. Unless the Chiefs are willing to overpay him to a long, guaranteed contract, which means that: 1) we're committing a shitload of money to two QBs who probably aren't the answer; 2) we hurt our ability to develop a QB in the next 3 years. The path is simple. Trade Cassel. Sign Orton. Draft a QB in the next 3 years, hopefully sooner rather than later. At least... it SHOULD be this simple.
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02-12-2012, 01:59 PM	#87
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-159474	Been coming across a handful of articles favoring the Orton to Washington move...here is one of them. I really hope we sign him as he seems to be the most realistic upgrade at the moment... http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...el1Q_blog.html Posted at 01:24 PM ET, 02/09/2012 Why signing Kyle Orton would make sense for the Redskins By Mike Jones It definitely wouldn’t make the headline splash of bringing Peyton Manning to town, but the Washington Redskins might be better off going after Kyle Orton as they look for a solution to the quarterback position. Not much is better than a healthy Peyton Manning, but at this point, no one knows whether Manning can regain his health, whether he even will be available, and whether he even wants to come to Washington. Landing Orton involves less risk and could ensure better continuity for a number of reasons, however. Don’t get me wrong, Orton is no franchise quarterback. A seven-year veteran, Orton has played a full season only once in his career, and twice he played 15 games. But the Purdue product is a solid quarterback who limits his mistakes and has the ability to keep a team in the game. The Redskins still need to draft a quarterback — whether they trade up for Robert Griffin III or take someone like Ryan Tannehill in the second round — and Orton would make a better bridge than Rex Grossman. Grossman had the respect of his Redskins teammates and coaches because he’s fearless, hangs tough and fires the ball downfield even though he knows a big hit is coming, and because he puts receivers in position to make plays. But he doesn’t have a conscience, makes poor decisions and too often keeps opponents in the games as well. So the Redskins most likely have gotten as far as they can with Grossman. An outside chance remains that he would return, but it won’t shock anyone if Mike Shanahan & Co. opt to go in another direction. When it comes to ability, Orton isn’t all that different from Grossman and is actually a little better. In 54 NFL games, Grossman has completed 55.2 percent of his passes for 10,232 yards (189.5 ypg). He has thrown 56 touchdowns and 60 interceptions. He owns a career passer rating of 71.4. Orton has played in 71 games and is a 58.3-percent passer. He has thrown for 14,532 yards (204.7 ypg) and 80 touchdowns, with 57 interceptions, and has a 79.4 passer rating. That touchdown-to-interception column is the difference. The Redskins would be able to bring in Orton, coach him up, plug him into the system and basically keep the system intact. The acquisition of Manning would require all sorts of modifications. Orton likely would be cheaper than Manning, as well. He had a base salary of $4.5 million last year, and probably would come at a similar price. That contract could include escalators that could increase it to $8 million to $9 million depending on how much he plays and how well he does. Mike Shanahan has said repeatedly that getting a quarterback won’t solve everything. He has added that the key to helping a young quarterback — or any passer, for that matter — is assembling a strong supporting cast. Signing Orton to a modest deal could still allow the Redskins to meet other needs. They need a big-play receiver, and the top two on the market, San Diego’s Vincent Jackson and Indianapolis’ Pierre Garcon, won’t come cheap. Washington also needs a right tackle, could need a left guard, and on defense must re-sign London Fletcher and address the safety and nickel back positions. The Redskins, entering Shanahan’s third season, could get a solid veteran in Orton and remain competitive while, at the same time, grooming a rookie who could take the keys in another year or so. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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02-12-2012, 02:01 PM	#88
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