Chiefs are 63m under the cap

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nick wright@getnickwrightReply
Always KC. RT @MattPomPom Teams with most salary cap room(in millions): KC $63, TB $60, CIN $60, DEN $51, WAS $48, JAC $45.

[BossChief]

How the hell are the ****ing Rams up against cap problems?

You know the organization is poorly ran when you are cap strapped AND have the second overall pick.

I mean really, how is that combination of things even possible?

We have way more talent than them and have half the payroll and won a lot more games.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I know they have a ton of money invested in the O-line and it's still shitty...

[BossChief]

Rams just hired les Snead.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BigRock

As I understood it, the 30% rule was a provision put into the last CBA that only applied to contracts being signed during that CBA's final death knells. It only came into effect once the salary cap had expired, or once the CBA was in its final year, or something to that effect. That's why it suddenly became a big deal around 2010, but nobody had ever heard of it before then.

Now that all the CBA stuff is cleared up, I would think it's a dead issue. I'd go as far to say I'm certain it is, or the 30% rule would have applied to numerous contract extensions that have been signed since the new CBA was ratified. Guys like Tamba, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, etc. have all gotten new deals coming off their rookie contracts. I don't remember a word about the 30% rule impacting any of those.

That's an interesting point.

In researching teh 30% rule, I didn't find anything that discussed players that might be affected by this rule in 2012.

It was all 2010 add 2011.

Originally Posted by BossChief

Rams just hired les Snead.

Since he worked for Thomas Dimitroff in Atlanta, does thi smean teh Patsification of the league continues?

[O.city]

I hadn't really thought of this and it was brought up in the draft forum, but if we draft Poe, could he play a Ngata role and just play all over the dline?

[BossChief]

Poe would be a pretty big project for that high of a pick.

He is a small school kid.

I think he will be available in the second round unless he hits a bunch of homeruns in workouts, during the combine and in interviews.

One thing is for sure, if we do pick him without a trade down...Romeo must have fell in love with him and that would be reason enough to be excited because Romeo has been the gold standard for 3-4 DL play for almost 30 years.

[O.city]

If we could come out of the first 3 rounds with


Richardson, Poe, and Massie it would be a grand slam.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

So, let me understand this, Brady makes shit receivers look awesome, while there's nothing a good QB can do to help Dwayne Bowe reach another level?

You're talking out both sides of your face.

You give Bowe a Schaub or even a Flacco, guys that can make all the throws, that can "throw their receivers open", then Bowe absolutely can take his game to that next level.

Now, if I thought the Rams had the money under the cap to afford Bowe, and thought that we had the ammo to compete against the Browns to make that move, making that trade wouldn't be a question.

Bottom line, in spite of your ramblings, the only real reason this trade idea doesn't work is money.

Overpaying a free agent like this is fine. Because the alternative is to spend nothing and leave a huge gap at WR. But saying you want that veteran instead of a younger, cheaper draft pick at a pick like #4 where there's a high probability you're going to get a very good starter for 10 years? That's something else entirely. There's a lot more to this than money. Especially for a team like the Rams who are 2-3 years away from being good. This reeks of a desperate team trying to win now, not one trying to methodically build a franchise.

And Bowe is more than likely going to be grossly overpaid. He's a good receiver, but the fact is he's going to get Larry Fitzgerald money when he isn't Larry Fitzgerald. On pure talent alone, he doesn't measure up to those dollars. But there are other limiting factors. We haven't seen Bowe make big plays in really big situations on a consistent basis. He hasn't measured up very well consistently against elite corners. To this day, regardless of the QB, none of us knows for sure if he's a guy I want to be throwing the ball to in the 2 minute drill in a playoff game. Does he ever give you that feeling? Maybe that's purely a problem with the QB. That's a lot of money to assume the QB is the only problem there.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Poe would be a pretty big project for that high of a pick.

He is a small school kid.

I think he will be available in the second round unless he hits a bunch of homeruns in workouts, during the combine and in interviews.

One thing is for sure, if we do pick him without a trade down...Romeo must have fell in love with him and that would be reason enough to be excited because Romeo has been the gold standard for 3-4 DL play for almost 30 years.

If we pick up Solilai, then Poe would be a phenomenal project to develop next to him. If the Chiefs don't pick up Solilai, then you're right, may want to draft a guy who might be more NFL ready right away.

[BossChief]

What's wrong with you lately, zilla?

You think Bowe is gonna get a deal even in the same ballpark as Fitzgerald?

Not a chance. I'd bet his deal will be closer to half of that amount than the full amount...in fact, I doubt he signs long term till mid season 2012...once he sees we have solified the quarterback position...I would do exactly that. Franchise tag.

Which brings me to the next post.

If we sign Soliai, our NTs next year better damn well be he and Powe...if we spend a first or second on a guy like Poe and flush Powe...that will be disappointing.

In short, if we sign Soliai...our DL is a finished product. Not a work in progress in need of another significant investment.

Especially when we have some big needs in other areas.

I really like what I've seen of this Massie kid.

He could definitely be a target for us in the second and third round and could probably start right away and play at a pretty high level.

I'd like to know more about him, but what I've found out so far is very impressive.

He would probably keep O.cities neighbor off the field, though.

[O.city]

Eh my neighbor moved out. I'm done with him, he didn't say bye and kept the wife's cookie container, that we gave him full of chocolate chip cookies.

[Titty Meat]

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Amon Gordon. He's a free agent isn't he? He played well and would be a great backup to Soliai.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Amon Gordon. He's a free agent isn't he? He played well and would be a great backup to Soliai.

True.

2011 NTs:

Gregg
Gordon
Powe

2012 NTs:

Soliai
Gordon
Powe

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

What's wrong with you lately, zilla?

You think Bowe is gonna get a deal even in the same ballpark as Fitzgerald?

Not a chance. I'd bet his deal will be closer to half of that amount than the full amount...in fact, I doubt he signs long term till mid season 2012...once he sees we have solified the quarterback position...I would do exactly that. Franchise tag.

Which brings me to the next post.

If we sign Soliai, our NTs next year better damn well be he and Powe...if we spend a first or second on a guy like Poe and flush Powe...that will be disappointing.

In short, if we sign Soliai...our DL is a finished product. Not a work in progress in need of another significant investment.

Especially when we have some big needs in other areas.

I really like what I've seen of this Massie kid.

He could definitely be a target for us in the second and third round and could probably start right away and play at a pretty high level.

I'd like to know more about him, but what I've found out so far is very impressive.

He would probably keep O.cities neighbor off the field, though.

I sure hope so. But again, if I'm the Chiefs, I pay Bowe a lot, even if it's overpayment.

If I'm the Rams, that's a much different story. They need to win later more than they do win now. And I'm not going to give up young picks to bring in a guy like Bowe.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Amon Gordon. He's a free agent isn't he? He played well and would be a great backup to Soliai.

IMO you only bring Gordon back if you've given up on Powe or we don't get anyone else as a starter.