Chiefs are 63m under the cap

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Always KC. RT @MattPomPom Teams with most salary cap room(in millions): KC $63, TB $60, CIN $60, DEN $51, WAS $48, JAC $45.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Overpaying a free agent like this is fine. Because the alternative is to spend nothing and leave a huge gap at WR. But saying you want that veteran instead of a younger, cheaper draft pick at a pick like #4 where there's a high probability you're going to get a very good starter for 10 years? That's something else entirely. There's a lot more to this than money. Especially for a team like the Rams who are 2-3 years away from being good. This reeks of a desperate team trying to win now, not one trying to methodically build a franchise.

And Bowe is more than likely going to be grossly overpaid. He's a good receiver, but the fact is he's going to get Larry Fitzgerald money when he isn't Larry Fitzgerald. On pure talent alone, he doesn't measure up to those dollars. But there are other limiting factors. We haven't seen Bowe make big plays in really big situations on a consistent basis. He hasn't measured up very well consistently against elite corners. To this day, regardless of the QB, none of us knows for sure if he's a guy I want to be throwing the ball to in the 2 minute drill in a playoff game. Does he ever give you that feeling? Maybe that's purely a problem with the QB. That's a lot of money to assume the QB is the only problem there.

Larry Fitzgerald had a phenominal post season with Kurt Warner getting him the ball.

His production, overall, hasn't suffered substantially since Warner retired, but he's not making the same big plays that he did with Warner, because the QBs aren't egtting him the ball accurately and on time the way that Wardner did.

Andre Johnson was a vurtual non factor in the Texans postseason.

To suggest that a real NFL calibre QB wouldn't have an impact on Bowe's performance is burying your head in your ass.

[O.city]

I think Bowe would put up a monster year, having a full season of Orton.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by milkman

That's an interesting point.

In researching teh 30% rule, I didn't find anything that discussed players that might be affected by this rule in 2012.

It was all 2010 add 2011.



Since he worked for Thomas Dimitroff in Atlanta, does thi smean teh Patsification of the league continues?

Does anyone here know Sam Mellinger or Adam Teicher personally? Maybe ask them to clarify the 30% rule and anything else that's going on in free agency right now wrt to any rules? You know pretend to be actual reporters from a bygone era.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by whoman69

IMO you only bring Gordon back if you've given up on Powe or we don't get anyone else as a starter.

Why? You carry 3 nose tackles.

[NJChiefsFan]

As far as the roll over cap $ goes, allowing the Chiefs to be 30 million over the actual cap this year, what happens the next year? If the Chiefs signed a FA with the extra 30 million, they would still have to shed that to get under the cap the following year right? Basically, I am asking if this 30 million is only allowed for one year. That would make sense, and kind of makes you use it on 1 year contracts I would think.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

As far as the roll over cap $ goes, allowing the Chiefs to be 30 million over the actual cap this year, what happens the next year? If the Chiefs signed a FA with the extra 30 million, they would still have to shed that to get under the cap the following year right? Basically, I am asking if this 30 million is only allowed for one year. That would make sense, and kind of makes you use it on 1 year contracts I would think.

If you wanted to bring in a free agent on a long term deal, you could set him up with easily attainable performance bonuses that hit in that first year, or perhaps a huge roster bonus that gets paid if he's on the roster the first week of the season.

I would guess there's a number of imaginable ways to structure ot so the big hit in this year.

[O.city]

What would you guys think about throwing some serious cash at Mario Williams?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

If you wanted to bring in a free agent on a long term deal, you could set him up with easily attainable performance bonuses that hit in that first year, or perhaps a huge roster bonus that gets paid if he's on the roster the first week of the season.

I would guess there's a number of imaginable ways to structure ot so the big hit in this year.

Gotta be very careful on what type of person you do this with, though.

Hand that check to the wrong guy and all you did was buy some problems.

I would have no problem going that route with Carr, though.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by O.city

What would you guys think about throwing some serious cash at Mario Williams?

It depends on what we can do with the other positions. If we aren't spending on a QB, have gotten the OL and NT as well as resigning our guys and have extra money I am willing to do it although I do believe in Houston.

Who knows, if we get outbid on the OL FA's, don't get Soliai, and resign Carr and Bowe thats not a bad choice at all. I don't think you could use the extra 30 on him unless the contract was front-loaded like crazy.

With all this money and people out there it gets you thinking, although with this team thats probably a perfect way to be dissapointed.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Why? You carry 3 nose tackles.

B/c dumbass. If a 6th rounder doesn't claim the backup position by year #2, it's obvious he won't develop and you get rid of him. ****, how many times do I need to tell you?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think Bowe would put up a monster year, having a full season of Orton.

He was on his way for 200 against that brokedick Bailey....before getting hurt out in Pile High in the season ender.

[BossChief]

If Bowe can catch 15 touchdowns with Matt Cassel as his quarterback, is it crazy to think he could get 20...even with a guy like Orton?

I think that could be an attainable goal.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Why? You carry 3 nose tackles.

But only 2 are active.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by aturnis

B/c dumbass. If a 6th rounder doesn't claim the backup position by year #2, it's obvious he won't develop and you get rid of him. ****, how many times do I need to tell you?

**** that.

Powe will be a good player. Its really unfair to talk about dumping him before his second year when his first was cut back because of the lockout and the fact that we had two vet NTs out there that played well all year.

He plays one of the positions that fans and coaches need to display patience with.

Quarterback
Corner
DL
Wideout

It's not like the guy is a running back/linebacker that typically steps right into the action and plays at a high level...he plays a position that requires not only a big jump in physical competition, but also in the mental part of the game.

Blocking schemes in the NFL are far more advanced than that in the SEC.

If you don't understand how the center and guards are trying to handle you and make adjustments to better protect your gaps, you end up getting blown off the ball with consistency and your linebackers and secondary suffer for it because generally those guys key off the nose.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by PGM

The Rams invested a number 2 overall pick in Jason Smith and spent a high 2nd on Saffold. It would be a collosal waste of resources and they might as well change thier team name to the St. Louis Sacofpoos.

Jason Smith is dogshit, absolute trash. That #2 overall they spent on Smith is a sunk cost and simply not worth worrying about anymore.

The Rams are going to go as far as Bradford can take him and right now Bradford is getting abused. Kalil would essentially be like drafting a new franchise QB in Bradford since he's been completely vitiated by the failures of their O-Line.

I think Blackmon's probably a slightly better pick for them, but Kalil would certainly be a good one as well.