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Carlota69 · 03-13-2012, 09:08 AM

Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT

APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter.

“When does the Manning backlash begin?“

The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency.

Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai.

Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested.

But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton.

The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday.

Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.

Chiefnj2 · 03-13-2012, 11:05 AM

The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.

Brock · 03-13-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.

The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

Chief Roundup · 03-13-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

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People are DESPERATELY trying to diminish Orton's ability because they spent 3 years doing so while he was in Denver.

No. He sucked when he was in Chicago too. He was better than Grossman but not much. If there is anything the Bears know it is a shitty QB and they got rid of him. Orton only really looked good when playing under McDaniels.

Dayze · 03-13-2012, 11:08 AM

the sooner I realize the Chiefs are perpetually screwed, the better.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

In for tha Win!

Okie_Apparition · 03-13-2012, 11:10 AM

The team might be better off with Orton than Cassel
how could they still go out & play to the whistle 4 years in with shitty britches

patteeu · 03-13-2012, 11:13 AM

For those saying we should just forget about Manning and sign guys like Soliai now, I think you missed the point of the article. The point appeared to be that Soliai would be hesitant to sign with anyone until the Manning deal is decided because until then, several of his potential suitors would be on the sidelines and he wouldn't be able to maximize his market. All the Chiefs can do is make offers. They can't force people to sign.

**dirk digler** · 03-13-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Orton's career numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Matt Cassel's.

He's not an upgrade, he's a different flavor of the same cheap ice cream.

I am not advocating for Orton but I believe he is a lot better than Cassel.

In your honest opinion when you watched Orton last year could you not tell how better he ran the offense than Cassel? One of the first things I noticed was how defenses played the Chiefs with Orton at QB compared to Cassel\Palko. They actually had to respect the pass for once.

reschief · 03-13-2012, 11:16 AM

Can't forget how good Orton looked against us in 2010 when he played for Denver . . .better than Cassel ever looked. . .

Chief Roundup · 03-13-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

I would rather watch Cassel 1 more year than be stuck with Orton for 3 to 5 years. When we will be bitching about Orton sucking and all of his limitations and what a mistake it was to sign him because he is the very symbol of mediocrity.
I don't want us to make a knee jerk reaction like we have done in the past with the likes of Lew Bush or Carlton Gray. We can always make a lateral move next year if that is what is available.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I would rather watch Cassel 1 more year than be stuck with Orton for 3 to 5 years. When we will be bitching about Orton sucking and all of his limitations and what a mistake it was to sign him because he is the very symbol of mediocrity.
I don't want us to make a knee jerk reaction like we have done in the past with the likes of Lew Bush or Carlton Gray. We can always make a lateral move next year if that is what is available.

It's quite possible Orton could sign for backup money, Is anyone serious(around the league) about Orton as a starter?

**the Talking Can** · 03-13-2012, 11:23 AM

with washington out, and flynn and manning available, I think Orton is going to go relatively cheaply as the last viable starter of those mentioned....henne is below even that and is likely a backup at this point

**The Franchise** · 03-13-2012, 11:24 AM

Flynn will probably be fought over between Miami and Cleveland. The loser of that will more than likely target Tannehill or Weeden.

Chief Roundup · 03-13-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

It's quite possible Orton could sign for backup money, Is anyone serious(around the league) about Orton as a starter?

Not sure exactly who but there are a lot of teams that need an upgrade at the position.
Orton has said he wants to be a starter. So it will take that not being an option anywhere else.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Not sure exactly who but there are a lot of teams that need an upgrade at the position.
Orton has said he wants to be a starter. So it will take that not being an option anywhere else.

We could promise him competition and a possible starting job to get him for less money, just not sure who else would want to sign him to a big contract.

03-13-2012, 09:08 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter. “When does the Manning backlash begin?“ The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency. Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai. Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested. But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton. The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday. Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	For those saying we should just forget about Manning and sign guys like Soliai now, I think you missed the point of the article. The point appeared to be that Soliai would be hesitant to sign with anyone until the Manning deal is decided because until then, several of his potential suitors would be on the sidelines and he wouldn't be able to maximize his market. All the Chiefs can do is make offers. They can't force people to sign. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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