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Carlota69 · 03-13-2012, 09:08 AM

Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT

APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter.

“When does the Manning backlash begin?“

The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency.

Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai.

Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested.

But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton.

The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday.

Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.

**1ChiefsDan** · 03-13-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

So it'll be Manning's fault when we inevitably fail to sign Soliai?

The excuses from Chiefs Planet get worse and worse.

FYP

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Ok, who is a better option then?

I already said Matt Cassel was the better option, at least over Orton.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.

Exactly.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

The problem with that of course, is that I would have to watch Cassel for another year.

So cut off your nose to spite your face...

saphojunkie · 03-13-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Say it with me folks. Tank! :P

Its going to work out okay for Indy.

Worked out better for St. Louis.

How much do the Vikings hate themselves for not losing one more game? Three first rounders and a 2nd. That's what it cost them to win a third game.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I am not advocating for Orton but I believe he is a lot better than Cassel.

In your honest opinion when you watched Orton last year could you not tell how better he ran the offense than Cassel? One of the first things I noticed was how defenses played the Chiefs with Orton at QB compared to Cassel\Palko. They actually had to respect the pass for once.

Once they got into the red zone, the offense stalled. That's been a knock on Orton his ENTIRE year.

There's also the fact that he threw for 300 yards against Green Bay and Oakland but then went to Denver and put up a Cassel-like 15-29 for 150 yards.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-13-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I already said Matt Cassel was the better option, at least over Orton.

Come on man

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Come on man

I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.

How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realize it's a mistake, We sign Orton to a 1 year deal.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-13-2012, 11:46 AM

Paul Soliai - DL - Dolphins Profootballtalk reports free agent NT Paul Soliai is drawing interest from the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons.
Soliai's market may be slow until Peyton Manning picks a team, as the latter remains the top priority for at least two of those teams. The Colts are interesting fit with Chuck Pagano's new 3-4 defense. New Falcons defensive boss Mike Nolan coached Soliai in Miami.

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realise it's a mistake, They sign Orton to a 1 year deal.

It's gonna depend on the dollars.

That year of Cassel is already paid for...

htismaqe · 03-13-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

How about 1 vs 1? Say Cassel is out and they realise it's a mistake, They sign Orton to a 1 year deal.

Not to mention that fact that it makes ZERO logical sense to sign Orton for just 1 year.

If he is gone after year 1, that means he SUCKED and therefore we were no better off than just keeping Cassel.

If he doesn't suck, then he's gonna be here longer than 1 year.

Imon Yourside · 03-13-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not to mention that fact that it makes ZERO logical sense to sign Orton for just 1 year.

If he is gone after year 1, that means he SUCKED and therefore we were no better off than just keeping Cassel.

If he doesn't suck, then he's gonna be here longer than 1 year.

Ok 3 year deal for backup money?

Bump · 03-13-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I'd MUCH rather have 1 more year of Cassel vs. 3 or 4 years of Orton.

is that the only option? 1 year of Cassel or 3 or 4 years of Orton? No, it's not. Orton is 100 times better than Cassel. He's been around and has probably learned from his experiences with different coaches and probably got better for it. Orton might be able to win us a playoff game, Cassel will never be able to do that. I'll take Orton for a year or 2 and draft Tannehill, if he makes it past Cleveland.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-13-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The way I see it is that Cassel will have 4 years in the Pioli system this year. Scott and Clark can only have so much patience. If Cassel sucks again this year, IMO, it would be hard for them to stick with him a 6th year. But, someone like Orton they could rationalize it away and turn 1 mediocre year into 3 years. Better chance of a change in QB - Cassel.

Seems like we've been saying this for the last three years.

"If Cassel sucks again this year, he's gone."

Eventually, we'll all wise up and realize he's here for the long haul, and that all this talk about competition is 100% bullshit.

03-13-2012, 09:08 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter. “When does the Manning backlash begin?“ The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency. Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai. Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested. But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton. The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday. Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.
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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1176009	Paul Soliai - DL - Dolphins Profootballtalk reports free agent NT Paul Soliai is drawing interest from the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons. Soliai's market may be slow until Peyton Manning picks a team, as the latter remains the top priority for at least two of those teams. The Colts are interesting fit with Chuck Pagano's new 3-4 defense. New Falcons defensive boss Mike Nolan coached Soliai in Miami.
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