Unemployed is where I be!

[petegz28]

Got the axe at work today. Can't really say I am disappointed to be honest. Managment at our firm was pretty chicken shit, spineless and ungrateful. I put in on average 60-65 hours a week including weekends. Few months ago I had a pow-wow with my boss and her boss because they had concerns about my being happy there. I asked why generated this concerns and their answer flat out was "we aren't going to discuss specifics". Ok, then WTF did you bring it up?

Then a few months later I get told my "tone" in my e-mails to an outsourcing company we were using was bad. I asked not once but twice what I said, what they would have liked me to have said, etc. No answer.

Then a few weeks ago when I was working my ass off night, days and weekends I get told that my boss's boss had concerns about my productivity but that I shouldn't ring my hands over it.


So today I get told I was being let go because of performance issues. Not one documented incident of said issues exists of course.

Normally I would feel like shit for getting fired but in this case when you are working that hard for someone and all they can do is insist on more then do you dirty like that I am not so sure this isn't really a blessing in disguise.

[sedated]

Since they didn’t really document any of the “performance issues”, does that just mean that you Can get unemployment? Or something more?

I’ve always heard that they need to have records of that stuff, but never known what the consequences were if they didn’t.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

Since they didn’t really document any of the “performance issues”, does that just mean that you Can get unemployment? Or something more?

I’ve always heard that they need to have records of that stuff, but never known what the consequences were if they didn’t.

I "resigned". I think it's legally considered a "Constructive Discharge". Meaning I was forced to quite more or less. It was quit or get fired. I can get unemployment, they said they would not contest it. Resigning does probably hurt me from a legal aspect but what are my odds on legal action anyway? I figure it's better to sit in future interviews and be able to say I resigned as opposed to I got fired.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I "resigned". I think it's legally considered a "Constructive Discharge". Meaning I was forced to quite more or less. It was quit or get fired. I can get unemployment, they said they would not contest it. Resigning does probably hurt me from a legal aspect but what are my odds on legal action anyway? I figure it's better to sit in future interviews and be able to say I resigned as opposed to I got fired.

nil. Kansas is a Right to Work state. Unless you can prove discrimintation or retaliation, they can fire you because your shirt is orange.

[petegz28]

And I had to make the decision on the spot on whether I was resigning or accepting termination. I had no opportunity for legal counsel so I think if for whatever reason it ever got to court I could claim my decision was under duress.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

nil. Kansas is a Right to Work state. Unless you can prove discrimintation or retaliation, they can fire you because your shirt is orange.

I was in MO though same thing applies. I knew I was pretty much ****ed on any legal ramifications thus opting to resign

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And I had to make the decision on the spot on whether I was resigning or accepting termination. I had no opportunity for legal counsel so I think if for whatever reason it ever got to court I could claim my decision was under duress.

What benefit did you see in resigning as opposed to them terminating you?

[phisherman]

Oh, if I could leave all over again, what choice words I would have for KMS.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by vailpass

What benefit did you see in resigning as opposed to them terminating you?

Future interviews. I think it's always better to say you resigned as opposed to you got fired.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Oh, if I could leave all over again, what choice words I would have for KMS.

From what I am hearing it was most likely SP more than KMS

[phisherman]

Onward and upward buddy. I'm sure you're feeling a bit of relief, just like I was when I walked out of that place.

[bevischief]

What field were you in? Don't say the company name. Maybe someone on here can help you out?

[sedated]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And I had to make the decision on the spot on whether I was resigning or accepting termination. I had no opportunity for legal counsel so I think if for whatever reason it ever got to court I could claim my decision was under duress.

Interesting.

So, assuming any one of the rest of us is in that position (fired with no severance, or quit with uncontested unemployment), is quitting the correct action?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

Interesting.

So, assuming any one of the rest of us is in that position (fired with no severance, or quit with uncontested unemployment), is quitting the correct action?

I think it's a gamble depending on state laws. As it was mentioned I could be fired without cause, legally as long as there weren't any forms of discrimination, etc. So you have to weigh the circumstance. Do you want to go sit in your next interview and explain why you were fired or why you quit?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Onward and upward buddy. I'm sure you're feeling a bit of relief, just like I was when I walked out of that place.

The anxiety over not getting a paycheck is setting in. MO unemployment sucks balls compared to KS. I have some $'s saved so I am not without but still. Other than that yes, I am totally relieved. I have been telling my wife I was ready to quit anyway just wanted to do it under different circumstances. I wish I would have at least had my day in court, no pun intended. The C-Level there turned out to be a real chicken shit who wants to be surrounded by Yes Men. I made a real mistake in my perecption of that person.

[Cornstock]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

So I hear you're having problems with your TPS reports.

Ahh, ya...Did you get the memo? We're putting cover letters on all the TPS reports before they go out. If you could go ahead and start doing that from now on that'd be great. I'll make sure you get a copy of that memo.