Should Penn State Get the Death Penalty?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And that is a multi-billion dollar response that hurts hundreds of thousands of people who have nothing to do with this. You sure that's something that's warranted?

Yes.

Get rid of the football program. And lighten up on the hyperbole. I don't care if "hundreds of thousands" of football fans are disappointed.

Penn State is an academic institution, and this entire mess shows that they forgot about this as their first and foremost identity.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yes.

Get rid of the football program. And lighten up on the hyperbole. I don't care if "hundreds of thousands" of football fans are disappointed.

Penn State is an academic institution, and this entire mess shows that they forgot about this as their first and foremost identity.

The school enrolls 100,000 students and 44,000 faculty members. Like any other public university, I'm sure they invest tens of millions of dollars in research and consultation to businesses and farms in Pennsylvania. You are talking about massive yearly losses that affect all of those people, not to mention the taxpayers that have to foot the bill. Not to mention indirect economic impact.

It's not hyperbole. It's why anybody who's ever looked at the economics of a death penalty have said it's a stupid idea.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The school enrolls 100,000 students and 44,000 faculty members. Like any other public university, I'm sure they invest tens of millions of dollars in research and consultation to businesses and farms in Pennsylvania. You are talking about massive yearly losses that affect all of those people, not to mention the taxpayers that have to foot the bill. Not to mention indirect economic impact.

It's not hyperbole. It's why anybody who's ever looked at the economics of a death penalty have said it's a stupid idea.

Football doesn't fund that institution. Not even close.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...se-money_n.htm

You think that $18M is going to cover the legal costs involved?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Football doesn't fund that institution. Not even close.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...se-money_n.htm

You think that $18M is going to cover the legal costs involved?

The legal expenses and all settlement punishments are a one-time expense. You're talking about changes that are going to lead to expenses that exist in perpetuity. $18M is a very big deal when it turns into $180M over ten years. Plus, you have the figure wrong. The football program makes about $50-70M a year in profit. And that doesn't even factor in the millions of dollars within their costs that are invested back into university-building activities.

And that $18M doesn't factor in the money raised because of alumni donors who feel pride in their football program. Joe Pa alone, it was reported, raised about $100-150M a year for football. It doesn't factor in the $11M extra cost to fund the athletic department that has over 1,000 student athletes, many of which rely on scholarships to get their education.

You are talking about an expense that over time is going to amount to billions of dollars in perpetuity.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The school enrolls 100,000 students and 44,000 faculty members. Like any other public university, I'm sure they invest tens of millions of dollars in research and consultation to businesses and farms in Pennsylvania. You are talking about massive yearly losses that affect all of those people, not to mention the taxpayers that have to foot the bill. Not to mention indirect economic impact.

It's not hyperbole. It's why anybody who's ever looked at the economics of a death penalty have said it's a stupid idea.

ALL shit the President of the University should have considered BEFORE LETTING A CHILD RAPIST POUND ASS ON CAMPUS! If the state of PA doesn't like it, tough titty. Hate PSU for ruining the economy.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

ALL shit the President of the University should have considered BEFORE LETTING A CHILD RAPIST POUND ASS ON CAMPUS! If the state of PA doesn't like it, tough titty. Hate PSU for ruining the economy.

And the President of the University should hopefully get the hammer thrown at him.

As for the child rapist... that is being handled by extreme punishments to those involved and hundreds of millions in losses to the university that enabled it. There are disgusting murders, rapes, assaults, etc... that happen every day. But our legal system is built around just punishment, not creating additional punishments because we are emotionally disgusted by the act.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And the President of the University should hopefully get the hammer thrown at him.

As for the child rapist... that is being handled by extreme punishments to those involved and hundreds of millions in losses to the university that enabled it. There are disgusting murders, rapes, assaults, etc... that happen every day. But our legal system is built around just punishment, not creating additional punishments because we are emotionally disgusted by the act.

The costs of the punishment should be borne solely by the institution. That's the point of stopping federal money to PSU not as some measure of additional punishment.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

The costs of the punishment should be borne solely by the institution. That's the point of stopping federal money to PSU not as some measure of additional punishment.

And they are going to be paying for hundreds of million dollars in settlements to the victims. They will probably also be forced to go through required compliance restructuring which will add additional cost. They as an institution are going to pay dearly for this dollar-wise.

And JFC, now we're talking about cutting federal money too? Good lord. This place has just gone bananas.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And they are going to be paying for hundreds of million dollars in settlements to the victims. They will probably also be forced to go through required compliance restructuring which will add additional cost. They as an institution are going to pay dearly for this dollar-wise.

And JFC, now we're talking about cutting federal money too? Good lord. This place has just gone bananas.

And not a nickel should be from public funds. If they can raise $1b from their alum for other shit they can sure as hell put together the Pedophile State defense fund.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yes.

Get rid of the football program. And lighten up on the hyperbole. I don't care if "hundreds of thousands" of football fans are disappointed.

Penn State is an academic institution, and this entire mess shows that they forgot about this as their first and foremost identity.

This mess shows that SOME of the people at Penn State put the football program ahead of decency, and those people should be drawn out and stoned to death for all I care.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by lcarus

This mess shows that SOME of the people at Penn State put the football program ahead of decency, and those people should be drawn out and stoned to death for all I care.

Those some were all of the most important people on that campus.

Time to recalibrate for the sake of the institution and its integrity moving forward. If tax payers/donors need to pick up the portion of the $18M slack from football, so be it.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Those some we're all of the most important people on that campus.

Time to recalibrate for the sake of the institution and its integrity moving forward. If tax payers/donors need to pick up the portion of the $18M slack from football, so be it.

If they were to take a year off and recalibrate - replace all the assholes that were involved with this - if that's what it takes for the school and the program to get it's fresh start, then fine whatever. But something like 5 years or more is just a bit much. I know someone will probably reply with something like "Well the victims have to live with this their whole lives!" but really, it isn't the game of football that raped the children, nor is it the game of football's fault that it was covered up. The people that covered it up did it for the sake of the football program, but it's still only those particular people that did something wrong.

Again, however long they wanna stop the program to finish the investigation into this matter, is fine.