Football The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE - Page 111

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-24-2013, 04:56 PM

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora

so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense

B14ckmon · 02-25-2013, 05:19 PM

We know nothing as of yet. Except that the 49ers have claimed that there is no deal reached for him. Which is technically going to be true no matter what up until March 12th.

Hammock Parties · 02-25-2013, 05:30 PM

WHAT TEH **** IS THIS

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-25-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

WHAT TEH **** IS THIS

the functionally reeruned brother of Elvis Grbac

Spott · 02-25-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

WHAT TEH **** IS THIS

Is that Elvis Grbac?

**SAUTO** · 02-25-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

JA, dude, even as an attempt at deflection this is pathetic. You should be better than this. How about the person who's claiming I'm lying? I was right and I had the option to either prove it or let it go. My choice.

I'm not the one deflecting here buddy.

Put up or shut up. That's the chiefs planet way
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Marvin49 · 02-25-2013, 05:36 PM

Hi All....I've been following this thread since the rumor hit and haven't been able to post till now. Full disclosure...I'm a Niner fan.

No smack talk or anything like that. I just figured I'd give you a little history on Alex.

First off, I'm not going to try and sell you on what he isn't. He is not Peyton Manning/Tom Brady. Obviously. He won't ever be one of those guys. What he is tho is a far, far better QB than anyone has given him credit for. I'm not going to try to sell you on the fact that he's the greatest QB ever. If he were, Kaep would never have seen the field and the Niners wouldn't have looked into Manning.

Positives: He's a TOUGH kid who works his a$$ off. He's exteremely smart (and that a bonus and a neg as I'll explain). He doesn't have a rocket, but he has a stronger arm than people give him credit for. He can definitely get the ball downfield. He will make the right call at the line just about every time getting the team into the right formation. Its like having a coach on the field. He is very accurate on the short to intermediate routes.

Negatives: That intelligence. He sometimes has "paralysis through analysis". Early on his college coach (Urban Meyer) said he was "non-functional" until he learned an offense backwards and forwards. He will wait until he's sure to throw which early on led to some incompletions or to getting the ball to a guy just as he's being hit. He has issues with the long ball down the sideline. He typically overthrows these passes. Its not arm strength...I think it's an extension of not wanting to make a mistake so he consistantly overthrows that pass. Down the middle tho he is just fine...especially to the TEs.

Something happened to Alex tho in 2010 (Pre-Harbaugh). In the infamous "We Want Carr" game vs Philly on National Television...something snapped. It was like he just stopped giving a sh*t what people thought of him. He had a BAD first half...but sometime in the second half there he just started winging it like crazy. He turned off the "afraid to make a mistake" gene or something.

Since that game....Alex Smith Stats....

34 Games (Including Playoffs), 910 Att, 583 Comp, 6710 Yards, 46 Tds, 13 INTs, 97.09 QB Rating.

He's simply been a different guy.

Alot of this can be attributed to Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman. Other than Norv Turner who Alex had for only a year, this was the first time he really had any support from the organization...and he's responded.

Some of you can make the point that its all Harbaugh...and that may very well be true as Harbaugh QBs have ALWAYS succeeded. Josh Johnson At USD. Andrew Luck at Stanford. Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick in SF.

The question tho is whether or not those QBs CONTINUE to succeed when no longer under his mentorship. Josh Johnson hasn't been able to continue that success, but he had a big jump in competition from his college level to the pros. Andrew Luck seems to be making that transition nicely.

Personally I think Alex will be very good with Andy Reid.

**The Franchise** · 02-25-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

WHAT TEH **** IS THIS

Elvis Grbac and Damon Huard had a baby....

**Ming the Merciless** · 02-25-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

SUCK FOR ALEX SMITH

**** my life

Hammock Parties · 02-25-2013, 05:46 PM

Two interesting PFF stats:

Alex Smith was the #1 QB in accuracy percentage last year and #3 in 2011.

The bad part: He almost never throws it down the field. Only 19 attempts over 20 yards last season, only 43 in 2011.

That's 1 pass attempt over 20 yards every 11 passes.

SPATCH · 02-25-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

Hi All....I've been following this thread since the rumor hit and haven't been able to post till now. Full disclosure...I'm a Niner fan.

No smack talk or anything like that. I just figured I'd give you a little history on Alex.

First off, I'm not going to try and sell you on what he isn't. He is not Peyton Manning/Tom Brady. Obviously. He won't ever be one of those guys. What he is tho is a far, far better QB than anyone has given him credit for. I'm not going to try to sell you on the fact that he's the greatest QB ever. If he were, Kaep would never have seen the field and the Niners wouldn't have looked into Manning.

Positives: He's a TOUGH kid who works his a$$ off. He's exteremely smart (and that a bonus and a neg as I'll explain). He doesn't have a rocket, but he has a stronger arm than people give him credit for. He can definitely get the ball downfield. He will make the right call at the line just about every time getting the team into the right formation. Its like having a coach on the field. He is very accurate on the short to intermediate routes.

Negatives: That intelligence. He sometimes has "paralysis through analysis". Early on his college coach (Urban Meyer) said he was "non-functional" until he learned an offense backwards and forwards. He will wait until he's sure to throw which early on led to some incompletions or to getting the ball to a guy just as he's being hit. He has issues with the long ball down the sideline. He typically overthrows these passes. Its not arm strength...I think it's an extension of not wanting to make a mistake so he consistantly overthrows that pass. Down the middle tho he is just fine...especially to the TEs.

Something happened to Alex tho in 2010 (Pre-Harbaugh). In the infamous "We Want Carr" game vs Philly on National Television...something snapped. It was like he just stopped giving a sh*t what people thought of him. He had a BAD first half...but sometime in the second half there he just started winging it like crazy. He turned off the "afraid to make a mistake" gene or something.

Since that game....Alex Smith Stats....

34 Games (Including Playoffs), 910 Att, 583 Comp, 6710 Yards, 46 Tds, 13 INTs, 97.09 QB Rating.

He's simply been a different guy.

Alot of this can be attributed to Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman. Other than Norv Turner who Alex had for only a year, this was the first time he really had any support from the organization...and he's responded.

Some of you can make the point that its all Harbaugh...and that may very well be true as Harbaugh QBs have ALWAYS succeeded. Josh Johnson At USD. Andrew Luck at Stanford. Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick in SF.

The question tho is whether or not those QBs CONTINUE to succeed when no longer under his mentorship. Josh Johnson hasn't been able to continue that success, but he had a big jump in competition from his college level to the pros. Andrew Luck seems to be making that transition nicely.

Personally I think Alex will be very good with Andy Reid.

Honestly, **** everything about you.

**DeezNutz** · 02-25-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Two interesting PFF stats:

Alex Smith was the #1 QB in accuracy percentage last year and #3 in 2011.

The bad part: He almost never throws it down the field. Only 19 attempts over 20 yards last season, only 43 in 2011.

That's 1 pass attempt over 20 yards every 11 passes.

Balla ass QB

Marvin49 · 02-25-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

Honestly, **** everything about you.

LOL.

Nice.

Hammock Parties · 02-25-2013, 05:50 PM

To compare Alex Smith's % of deep throws, well...it's basically identical to Cassel in 2010. 1 pass over 20 yards every 10 or 11 attempts.

**DeezNutz** · 02-25-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

LOL.

Nice.

Welcome to CP.

**Ming the Merciless** · 02-25-2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin49

He's simply been a different guy.

He isn't a winner. Those 34 games are basically 2 of matt cassel's 2010 seasons.........check down / junk yards ...... surrounded by a pretty decent overall team....that is making HIM better...

What we need, and the 'academy' here at CP has thoroughly convinced me of is a QB who makes everyone else better around him......not one who can do ok if everything else is flawless...

Honestly **** all options other than getting a QB who improves everyone else and makes everyone better around him.

I'm gonna do yard work this year.

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02-25-2013, 05:36 PM	#1656
Marvin49 Starter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Hi All....I've been following this thread since the rumor hit and haven't been able to post till now. Full disclosure...I'm a Niner fan. No smack talk or anything like that. I just figured I'd give you a little history on Alex. First off, I'm not going to try and sell you on what he isn't. He is not Peyton Manning/Tom Brady. Obviously. He won't ever be one of those guys. What he is tho is a far, far better QB than anyone has given him credit for. I'm not going to try to sell you on the fact that he's the greatest QB ever. If he were, Kaep would never have seen the field and the Niners wouldn't have looked into Manning. Positives: He's a TOUGH kid who works his a$$ off. He's exteremely smart (and that a bonus and a neg as I'll explain). He doesn't have a rocket, but he has a stronger arm than people give him credit for. He can definitely get the ball downfield. He will make the right call at the line just about every time getting the team into the right formation. Its like having a coach on the field. He is very accurate on the short to intermediate routes. Negatives: That intelligence. He sometimes has "paralysis through analysis". Early on his college coach (Urban Meyer) said he was "non-functional" until he learned an offense backwards and forwards. He will wait until he's sure to throw which early on led to some incompletions or to getting the ball to a guy just as he's being hit. He has issues with the long ball down the sideline. He typically overthrows these passes. Its not arm strength...I think it's an extension of not wanting to make a mistake so he consistantly overthrows that pass. Down the middle tho he is just fine...especially to the TEs. Something happened to Alex tho in 2010 (Pre-Harbaugh). In the infamous "We Want Carr" game vs Philly on National Television...something snapped. It was like he just stopped giving a sht what people thought of him. He had a BAD first half...but sometime in the second half there he just started winging it like crazy. He turned off the "afraid to make a mistake" gene or something. Since that game....Alex Smith Stats.... 34 Games (Including Playoffs), 910 Att, 583 Comp, 6710 Yards, 46 Tds, 13 INTs, 97.09 QB Rating. He's simply been a different guy. Alot of this can be attributed to Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman. Other than Norv Turner who Alex had for only a year, this was the first time he really had any support from the organization...and he's responded. Some of you can make the point that its all Harbaugh...and that may very well be true as Harbaugh QBs have ALWAYS succeeded. Josh Johnson At USD. Andrew Luck at Stanford. Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick in SF. The question tho is whether or not those QBs CONTINUE to succeed when no longer under his mentorship. Josh Johnson hasn't been able to continue that success, but he had a big jump in competition from his college level to the pros. Andrew Luck seems to be making that transition nicely. Personally I think Alex will be very good with Andy Reid. Last edited by Marvin49; 02-25-2013 at 05:42 PM..*
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02-25-2013, 05:46 PM	#1659
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	Two interesting PFF stats: Alex Smith was the #1 QB in accuracy percentage last year and #3 in 2011. The bad part: He almost never throws it down the field. Only 19 attempts over 20 yards last season, only 43 in 2011. That's 1 pass attempt over 20 yards every 11 passes. __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 296,991

02-25-2013, 05:50 PM	#1663
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $930478	To compare Alex Smith's % of deep throws, well...it's basically identical to Cassel in 2010. 1 pass over 20 yards every 10 or 11 attempts. __________________ Chiefs game films
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