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Old 03-09-2013, 12:19 PM   #1
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What concerns me more is the tenor of the fans thinking that it is somehow 2005 again and that free agency is going to solve our problems.

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

Rebuilding like this is a sure way to get to mediocrity, but it won't get us above and beyond that.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:23 PM   #2
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They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.
It's a start.

It's evaluating holes, seeing we have cap space, and responsibly filling what we can before the draft.

There are no blockbuster deals.

FA hasn't started yet and the draft hasn't happened and I'm already more likely to buy a ticket than I was last year...
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:28 PM   #3
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It's a start.

It's evaluating holes, seeing we have cap space, and responsibly filling what we can before the draft.

There are no blockbuster deals.

FA hasn't started yet and the draft hasn't happened and I'm already more likely to buy a ticket than I was last year...
We aren't likely going to have blockbusters before the period starts. However, I just hope that fans and management understand that this is going to take a few years. The truth is that we have so many holes on this team that they aren't all going to be filled in a single offseason.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:35 PM   #4
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However, I just hope that fans and management understand that this is going to take a few years.
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It does not have to! It only does if we don't do a good job evaluating our own talent, adding new talent, and ****ing the draft up all to hell.

YOU CAN CHANGE THE ENTIRE DIRECTION OF A TEAM IN ONE OFFSEASON!
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:42 PM   #5
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NEIN!

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YOU CAN CHANGE THE ENTIRE DIRECTION OF A TEAM IN ONE OFFSEASON!
Taking the right exit on the Interstate doesn't get you all the way to the destination.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:44 PM   #6
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Taking the right exit on the Interstate doesn't get you all the way to the destination.
It can get you to the playoffs though.

And that's step 1...
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:27 PM   #7
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What concerns me more is the tenor of the fans thinking that it is somehow 2005 again and that free agency is going to solve our problems.

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

Rebuilding like this is a sure way to get to mediocrity, but it won't get us above and beyond that.
I would be more concerned if we brought in guys like Eric Winston that we treated like a 5-year solution. As I've said before, I am not a fan of the Alex smith trade, but am okay with it if it is a stopgap to an aggressive search for a young replacement. Same here with Dunta.

It seems to me that Dorsey was asked by chunt to build a team that is at least good enough to bring arrowhead back to life immediately. I can understand why hunt wants that, as he doesn't seem to want to give a gm yet another 5 year wait and see strategy. I still believe that Dorsey at his core believes in the draft. A move like this seems like one that can help us win some quick games today to revive arrowhead, while not panicking in the draft. More than anything, this move doesn't look to me like a move that will hurt our long term strategy.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:34 PM   #8
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I would be more concerned if we brought in guys like Eric Winston that we treated like a 5-year solution. As I've said before, I am not a fan of the Alex smith trade, but am okay with it if it is a stopgap to an aggressive search for a young replacement. Same here with Dunta.

It seems to me that Dorsey was asked by chunt to build a team that is at least good enough to bring arrowhead back to life immediately. I can understand why hunt wants that, as he doesn't seem to want to give a gm yet another 5 year wait and see strategy. I still believe that Dorsey at his core believes in the draft. A move like this seems like one that can help us win some quick games today to revive arrowhead, while not panicking in the draft. More than anything, this move doesn't look to me like a move that will hurt our long term strategy.
It's not the move itself, but the philosophy of several moves like this stacked upon one another and the expectations of the fan base as a result.

I agree that the goal of this offseason is to refill Arrowhead as soon as possible. I also find that goal abhorrent. The goal should be to build a football team that can consistently compete for championships, and that's very difficult to do if your team hangs out in the purgatory of mediocrity, because you aren't going to get easy access to the most valuable assets in the game, young, impact, cost-controlled talent, especially when you are already down multiple second-day draft picks.
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Old 03-09-2013, 12:44 PM   #9
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What concerns me more is the tenor of the fans thinking that it is somehow 2005 again and that free agency is going to solve our problems.

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

Rebuilding like this is a sure way to get to mediocrity, but it won't get us above and beyond that.
What the **** ever, dude. So far we have resigned our best players that were drafted by this team and added one free agent for a gaping hole, and traded for a decent - not great, but at least legitimate - starter at quarterback. I'm not a fan of Alex Smith at all, but you have jumped to hyperbole.

This is not rebuilding through free agency - it's just getting ready for the draft. What the ****? You want them to have drafted Milliner instead? Well, too bad. That's kinda hard to do today, considering that, you know, the draft isn't for another month and a half.

Man, some of you people are truly in full meltdown mode. I'm still cautiously optimistic that the QB position will be addressed in the draft and Alex Smith will not start every game in 2013.

If KC can trade down and still draft a QB in the first or early second, I will not complain for one second, even if its a guy I don't want, like Matt Barkley. At least they will have gone for it. Despite hating the Alex Smith trade, I am reserving my full-on "this franchise refuses to do it right!" panic for when we have officially not taken a QB in the draft.
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