Chiefs Chiefs sign Dunta Robinson - Page 28

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-08-2013, 10:08 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

And we're off: Former Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson reached agreement Friday night on a three-year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs.

**Rausch** · 03-09-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

It's a start.

It's evaluating holes, seeing we have cap space, and responsibly filling what we can before the draft.

There are no blockbuster deals.

FA hasn't started yet and the draft hasn't happened and I'm already more likely to buy a ticket than I was last year...

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-09-2013, 12:23 PM

Training guys not to stand at the line and play patty cakes can definately improve a pass rush I would think.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:24 PM

You guys put far too much emphasis into scheming and gapping, and are arguing about all of the wrong topics here.

Dunta brings versatility, either as a CB or FS. I love lewis at FS, so I see this being a Dunta at CB. The upside is we have a very good nickel corner, Arenas, and the frontline versatility to swap between a 4-3 and a 3-4 with the players currently under contract, all we are doing now is either improving the talent at the starting position, or adding depth.

Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Lewis. That sounds like a pretty solid secondary when you toss out names like Hali, Houston, and Johnson out there as your linebackers.

There might be a shakeup in the Defense just a bit, but I'm willing to guess it'll be Robinson/Berry on the strong side, and Flowers/Lewis on the other, which works magically for us.

I'm actually even more excited about Dunta now, more than earlier. All we need to do now is found a bloodhound for ILB/MLB and we are going to be set like a mother****er defensively.

I know people are going to flame me for tossing out the name of a "bust" out there, but what's the update on Maualuga from Cincy? Is he hitting FA?

**Rausch** · 03-09-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Tell Pittsburgh that scheme means nothing. They can literally plug guys off the street and field a Top 5 defense.

They can consistently plug in ROTY guys because they consistently draft them...

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-09-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

They can consistently plug in ROTY guys because they consistently draft them...

It's as important to be able to teach and develop as it is finding a talented player. Many guys with extreme talent fail.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-09-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What concerns me more is the tenor of the fans thinking that it is somehow 2005 again and that free agency is going to solve our problems.

They're acting like this is a one year fix and it isn't. Just because we have jack and shit in the way of depth doesn't mean we should look to the least efficient mechanism to fill that depth.

Rebuilding like this is a sure way to get to mediocrity, but it won't get us above and beyond that.

I would be more concerned if we brought in guys like Eric Winston that we treated like a 5-year solution. As I've said before, I am not a fan of the Alex smith trade, but am okay with it if it is a stopgap to an aggressive search for a young replacement. Same here with Dunta.

It seems to me that Dorsey was asked by chunt to build a team that is at least good enough to bring arrowhead back to life immediately. I can understand why hunt wants that, as he doesn't seem to want to give a gm yet another 5 year wait and see strategy. I still believe that Dorsey at his core believes in the draft. A move like this seems like one that can help us win some quick games today to revive arrowhead, while not panicking in the draft. More than anything, this move doesn't look to me like a move that will hurt our long term strategy.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

It's a start.

It's evaluating holes, seeing we have cap space, and responsibly filling what we can before the draft.

There are no blockbuster deals.

FA hasn't started yet and the draft hasn't happened and I'm already more likely to buy a ticket than I was last year...

We aren't likely going to have blockbusters before the period starts. However, I just hope that fans and management understand that this is going to take a few years. The truth is that we have so many holes on this team that they aren't all going to be filled in a single offseason.

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Tell Pittsburgh that scheme means nothing. They can literally plug guys off the street and field a Top 5 defense.

Top 5 defense, QB that can win you games, and an 8-8 record last season, 3rd in the division.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I would be more concerned if we brought in guys like Eric Winston that we treated like a 5-year solution. As I've said before, I am not a fan of the Alex smith trade, but am okay with it if it is a stopgap to an aggressive search for a young replacement. Same here with Dunta.

It seems to me that Dorsey was asked by chunt to build a team that is at least good enough to bring arrowhead back to life immediately. I can understand why hunt wants that, as he doesn't seem to want to give a gm yet another 5 year wait and see strategy. I still believe that Dorsey at his core believes in the draft. A move like this seems like one that can help us win some quick games today to revive arrowhead, while not panicking in the draft. More than anything, this move doesn't look to me like a move that will hurt our long term strategy.

It's not the move itself, but the philosophy of several moves like this stacked upon one another and the expectations of the fan base as a result.

I agree that the goal of this offseason is to refill Arrowhead as soon as possible. I also find that goal abhorrent. The goal should be to build a football team that can consistently compete for championships, and that's very difficult to do if your team hangs out in the purgatory of mediocrity, because you aren't going to get easy access to the most valuable assets in the game, young, impact, cost-controlled talent, especially when you are already down multiple second-day draft picks.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 12:35 PM

"i love Lewis at FS"

Are you a masochist?

**Rausch** · 03-09-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

However, I just hope that fans and management understand that this is going to take a few years.

NEIN!

It does not have to! It only does if we don't do a good job evaluating our own talent, adding new talent, and ****ing the draft up all to hell.

YOU CAN CHANGE THE ENTIRE DIRECTION OF A TEAM IN ONE OFFSEASON!

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Lewis. That sounds like a pretty solid secondary when you toss out names like Hali, Houston, and Johnson out there as your linebackers.

Um, people need to get over the idea that Kendrick Lewis is part of anything solid for us.

Dunta Robinson is coming here to take his job.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-09-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Top 5 defense, QB that can win you games, and an 8-8 record last season, 3rd in the division.

We won't be top 5 defense I think 8-8 is more than reasonable. If we do this, and we get several impact and depth players from the draft I'm KEY positions (pioli focused on non key positions),then we had a very good year.

I don't think we can afford another miserable season. I also don't think we want a playoff season built purely by stacking the deck without having a pipelineof young guys to replace those mediocre players. As I've said, I don't like the Alex smith trade, but if he starts all year but we have top notch options to replace him in a year or two, im ok with the trade. And no... Top notch does not mean grabbing a raw guy at a value pick unless you are absolutely convinced about his upside.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2013, 12:41 PM

Where is the proof that Dunta Robinson is going to play FS? It sounds like echo-chamber-constructed supposition.

**Rausch** · 03-09-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Um, people need to get over the idea that Kendrick Lewis is part of anything solid for us.

Dunta Robinson is coming here to take his job.

I'm a big Lewis backer and I'd be more than fine with that...

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Exoter175 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10003166	You guys put far too much emphasis into scheming and gapping, and are arguing about all of the wrong topics here. Dunta brings versatility, either as a CB or FS. I love lewis at FS, so I see this being a Dunta at CB. The upside is we have a very good nickel corner, Arenas, and the frontline versatility to swap between a 4-3 and a 3-4 with the players currently under contract, all we are doing now is either improving the talent at the starting position, or adding depth. Flowers, Robinson, Berry, Lewis. That sounds like a pretty solid secondary when you toss out names like Hali, Houston, and Johnson out there as your linebackers. There might be a shakeup in the Defense just a bit, but I'm willing to guess it'll be Robinson/Berry on the strong side, and Flowers/Lewis on the other, which works magically for us. I'm actually even more excited about Dunta now, more than earlier. All we need to do now is found a bloodhound for ILB/MLB and we are going to be set like a mother****er defensively. I know people are going to flame me for tossing out the name of a "bust" out there, but what's the update on Maualuga from Cincy? Is he hitting FA?
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