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Old 03-12-2013, 02:45 PM  
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Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed

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Trade Official: QB Alex Smith to #Chiefs confirmed. Stay tuned to http://KCchiefs.com for more info #chiefskingdom


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The Alex Smith to #Chiefs trade is now official. 49ers get 2nd round pick plus conditional 2014 pick. Chiefs get starting QB



The San Francisco 49ers have agreed to a trade with the Kansas City Chiefs. The 49ers will acquire an undisclosed 2013 draft choice, and a conditional pick in the 2014 NFL Draft, in return for sending QB Alex Smith to the Chiefs. Smith must pass a physical in Kansas City for the trade to be executed.

“We would like to thank Alex for his contributions to the 49ers organization over the past eight years,” said 49ers General Manager Trent Baalke. “He is a true professional who represented the 49ers with class on and off the field.”

Originally the first overall draft pick in the 2005 NFL Draft by San Francisco, Smith spent eight seasons in the red and gold. During his tenure with the 49ers, he started 75 of the 80 games in which he played, completing 1,290 of 2,177 pass attempts (59.3%) for 14,280 yards and 81 TDs.

In 2012, Smith was 6-2-1 as a starter, completing 153 of 218 pass attempts (70.2%) for 1,737 yards with 13 TDs and 5 INTs, and a QB rating of 104.1. In 2011, Smith led the 49ers to their first NFC West title and postseason berth since 2002. He threw for a career-high 3,144 yards on 273 of 445 pass attempts with 17 TDs, 5 INTs and a 90.7 QB rating.

Born in Seattle, WA, Smith attended Helix High School in LaMesa, CA. At the University of Utah, Smith boasted a 21-1 record as a starter and became the first player in school history to be named a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.



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Old 03-14-2013, 02:44 PM   #601
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He's played a full season twice. He's injury prone....reerun.
He's the only 49ers qb to ever take every snap in a season. 2005 rookie season didn't play full season because he didn't start right away. 2006 played full season, 2007 shoulder injury, 2008 IR from complications from 07 shoulder injury caused by doctor error, 2009 Shaun Hill opened the year as starter after having a few good games to end previous season Smith is re-inserted as starter after a few games, 2010 Smith has minor shoulder tweak misses one game Troy Smith plays well and idiot Singletary plays him for a few games until re-inserting Alex to starting role, 2011 played full season, 2012 concussion. In 8 years he's had one major injury and 2 minor injuries, I'd hardly say he's injury prone.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:44 PM   #602
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If the Chiefs swap with Buffalo, they'd get a Top Ten pick in return next season.

Buffalo is an awful franchise.


Man what does that make us????
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:48 PM   #603
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"major shoulder injury"

plays QB...


big gulps huh? welp, see ya later!
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:49 PM   #604
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"major shoulder injury"

plays QB...


big gulps huh? welp, see ya later!
Yup just like why the Dolphins passed on Drew Brees, great decision.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:51 PM   #605
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Hi KC fans. This is long, but I feel it would be irresponsible for me not to give you a fair warning to your eminent horizon.

Let me preface by saying I'm a Niners fan but I got no beef with your team. Anyone that gets to smack around the raiders (the absolute lowest common denominator of humanity) is OK in my book. You may read that oakland is in a state of revival, that's bull*** - it's always been a s***hole and always will be.

If you're reading this, the Alex Smith trade has gone through.

I post to you with an olive branch in my hand - I'm here only to let you know what your in for.

First things first, Alex Smith is great guy. If he weren't he would have been booted from our team half a decade ago. He is the epitome of class, the nonpareil of locker room integrity, he's dedicated- to the team, to his family and to his community. He always says the right things. Were a bildungsroman to be written of a young man destined for the trials and tribulations of the NFL, Alex Smith is the poster child. He's the kind of dude you want your daughter to marry.

He's also very smart. His wonderlic was very high. He did very well at a mediocre school. I'm not sure what that means. Marino is as dumb as a doorknob, and Joe isn't renown for his intellectual prowess. Stephen Hawking is incredibly smart, but I don't think I'd want him quarterbacking my team (but then again, he knows more than I, so if he could figure out a way to pull it off and win- rock and roll Stevo).

Please KC, don't get mad at the player. I can confidently say that Alex Smith will do everything in his power to bring success to your organization.

The problem is Alex isn't coming to KC to chill, hang out and eat BBQ (of which I'm personally jealous, there's little real BBQ in SF - there's wanna-be- but no real-deal). He's coming out to lead your football team.

KC, you have acquired an enigma.

Is he great? No. Is he really good? Nobody really knows. Has he had moments of greatness? Yes! Are those moments rare? Yes. Can he win a big game? Yes! Can he lose an even bigger game? Yes.

What is he really good at? Well, he's an incredibly conservative passer, he can take a sack better than any QB I've ever seen, and his presence divides a fanbase more than anything I've ever witnessed (I went through the Joe vs. Steve debacle and it was dark, but nothing near the acrimony associated with the AS debate(maybe thats got something to do with the internet or something, IDK)).

There are essentially three camps of folks when it comes to Alex Smith. The Haters (those who believe the dude is a junk QB and whose success is completely dependent on the system and will spare no expense to trash the guy). The 49er Fans (those who care more about the team than any individual player(s) and want everyone to do well). And the Fanboys, a.k.a. the Alex Supporters (a term I find funny b/c when I played sports a supporter referred to something specific that I would personally not want to be associated with).

The Haters were predictable- they were mad for myriad reasons. They would constantly lament at the fact that Smith wasn't Rodgers, took too long in his reads, couldn't hit a receiver in stride, would regularly pass for 5 yards on 3rd and 6, enjoyed throwing the ball above-below-behind a receiver (essentially everywhere except where a proper pass should land), would take a sack rather risk an incompletion, stared down his receivers, had a predilection for check-downs even when folks were wide open downfield, a penchant for getting coaches fired, rarely scanned deeper than 10 yards, became anomic when rattled, had a slow release and a mediocre arm, and has been given more chances than Carter had pills.

The Fans were just happy that the team was finally achieving some success after almost two decades of the suck and could really care less who the QB was as long as we were doing well. A polka-dotted rainbow-skinned hermaphroditic sheep could be the QB and as long as we were winning, we really wouldn't care.

And then there are the Fanboys - a breed upon themselves. They come multiple forms, oldman Fanboys, english Fanboys, juicy Fanboys, Never-Seen-Any-Other QB-play Fanboys. They exhibit a dedication to and fascination of Alex Smith that transcends logic, reason, and accountability. In their mind Smith is incapable of doing anything wrong - he is the unfortunate recipient of bad coaches, players, luck, fans, weather, hell - they've blamed gravity on his low passes. Their favorite stat is Alex's completion percentage (which they consistently confuse with accuracy). In their mind there is no difference between a crappy pass that requires a WR to stop/wait/ or make some otherwise awkward motion and throwing to a receiver so that he can make a play. In their mind Alex came into the league a HOF QB that was held back only by circumstances outside of his purview.

Fanboys also like to use stats to prove Alex Smith is a good/great QB. Has he gotten better? Absolutely. But, it's also like comparing a fresh turd with a 5 year old turd. (Obviously the 5 year old turd isn't as ripe and juicy, and will (in most people's eyes) be a better turd due to it's lack of offense. But, pardon the tautology, poop is still poop (petrified or not). It took a guru to turn the poop into something serviceable). After Kap started playing, Fanboys loved to "prove" that AS was still a superior QB because of his stats. Fanboys went so far to say that AS was a better QB than Manning and Rodgers (if you looked at the stats). Cocaine is a hell'uva drug. So is Alex Smith love.

(An excellent example of this type of blind love is continually exhibited by a particular moderator of a popular 49er fanzone who will ban or warn any poster who says anything critical of his beloved QB, or failing that, shut down any post that doesn't attempt to paste AS in the best light (which are all of them). Don't take my word for it look for yourselves - don't let it happen to your sites).

So, where does that leave you. Look. First things first, Smith is a great guy, maybe one of the greatest. Second, he's a decent QB - I'm not sure of how many training camp QB competitions he's won when the HC didn't load the deck, but he's definitely better now than he was 7 years ago. Third, you got Reid and Reid has a good history with QBs (and I'm sorry, but I can't help this, Reid (lest anyone forgot) is also a descendant of the 49ers). Smith would have never been successful without Harbaugh, and I do think he won't regress markedly under AR. In fact the greatest thing Smith did for the Niners was play just well/poorly enough to where we could acquire Harbaugh. Fourth, it's widely documented that it takes AS 3 years to learn a system- hopefully this isn't true.

He will make brilliant plays, but his inaccuracy will piss off Bowe - we've never had a receiver of the same caliber under AS's tenure, and there has still been a ton of grumbling over the years. But he will also redeem himself in certain circumstances in certain periods of time. He CAN make all the throws, but everything needs to be perfect. He won't rock the ship. He's good enough to always have hope.

I also want to say that his last game vs. the Cards was excellent. It was in, in my mind, his finest game ever. I know the Saints comeback was great, as were a few others, but his last game was by far his most consistent play I have ever seen. At no point did he slump, he finally did hit receivers in stride, stared off DBs, had complete command of the huddle and line-calls, and generally went out and kicked ass. If you guys are getting that Alex Smith you're gonna be stoked. Insofar as it was his last game and last metric to go by, you should have hope. But also beware that for every good game he's put together, there is a stinker waiting around the corner.

I leave you with this. Stay strong, Stay united. You guys have been through a rough year (I feel your pain, we had the same record a few years ago). Call to reason any fan that starts to skew in one direction or the other. Keep dialogue open and beware of powers that want to sway the conversation in one direction or the other. Also beware of moderators who don't believe in the freedom of speech unless it correlates with their own particular universe of reality.

Lastly, if you do see Alex around town- give him your best because you can be confident he's going to do the same for you.

Good luck and Kick the Life out of oak!
You've gone a long way out of your way to take a few shots at some members of another forum.

I agree with most of this...I'd argue this person isn't exactly neutral in his opinion, but it's not far off mark.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:52 PM   #606
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Listed a bunch of injuries and more missed game seasons than complete seasons to 'prove' how sturdy Alice Smith is .
That is your ****ing response? That dump truck full of shitty excuses?

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Old 03-14-2013, 02:58 PM   #607
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That is your ****ing response? That dump truck full of shitty excuses?
3 injuries in 8 years, I was explaining the circumstances as to why he has only 2 full seasons a lot of it is being jerked around by coaches in a bad organization at the time, not because he's always hurt.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:03 PM   #608
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3 injuries in 8 years, I was explaining the circumstances as to why he has only 2 full seasons a lot of it is being jerked around by coaches in a bad organization at the time, not because he's always hurt.
so injuries caused 3 of his seasons to go incomplete, would it be fair then to say the other 3 seasons he was pulled for lack of performance? so:

injured: 3 seasons
yanked for suckage: 3 seasons
complete seasons: 2


?

That is your argument?
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:14 PM   #609
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so injuries caused 3 of his seasons to go incomplete, would it be fair then to say the other 3 seasons he was pulled for lack of performance? so:

injured: 3 seasons
yanked for suckage: 3 seasons
complete seasons: 2


?

That is your argument?
He was in a bad situation with terrible coaches who knew nothing about offense. If you want to shit on the guy who whether you like it or not is your Quarterback for the foreseeable future you can do that. I've watched dude play for 8 years and I wouldn't characterize him as injury prone he hasn't had any serious injuries for the last 5 years, he got jerked around a lot but he was in a bad situation. I hope he does well but you're not gonna hurt my sportsfan feelings we're doing pretty good over here in SF with our world series wins and football team set up to be a dynasty for the next 10 years. Thanks for the 2 2nd rounders though!
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Man what does that make us????
Great question, considering we've won 29 games in the past 6 years, and Buffalo has won 36 - in a much more difficult division.
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you're not gonna hurt my sportsfan feelings we're doing pretty good over here in SF with our world series wins and football team set up to be a dynasty for the next 10 years. Thanks for the 2 2nd rounders though!
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Great question, considering we've won 29 games in the past 6 years, and Buffalo has won 36 - in a much more difficult division.
Including, what, 4 of those against us?
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Including, what, 4 of those against us?


Yep.

Buffalo is 4-1 against us since 2008, outscoring us 156-78.
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Great question, considering we've won 29 games in the past 6 years, and Buffalo has won 36 - in a much more difficult division.
Buffalo hasn't had a single playoff appearance since 1999.

IMO, they suck slightly more.
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