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[Hammock Parties]

The only thing that's "absurd" about the Cassel-Smith comparisons are the people who REFUSE to acknowledge that they have definite similarities.

I mean Alex Smith throws the ball down the field less than Cassel. That's hard to do.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

The only thing that's "absurd" about the Cassel-Smith comparisons are the people who REFUSE to acknowledge that they have definite similarities.

I mean Alex Smith throws the ball down the field less than Cassel. That's hard to do.

Please tell me, to whom was Smith supposed to throw down the field over the course of his career?

And do you know anything about the WCO? There has to be a metric or stat on PFF.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please tell me, to whom was Smith supposed to throw down the field over the course of his career?

And do you know anything about the WCO? There has to be a metric or stat on PFF.

Dude even in the WCO there are plenty of intermediate and deep throws.

And it's not like Matt Cassel had all these down-the-field studs in Kansas City.

Alex Smith doesn't throw the ball down the field for one reason and one reason only...he's afraid to.

Alex Smith...throws the ball down the field less than everyone in the NFL save Christian Ponder....that has nothing to do with who's running routes and everything to do with the QB.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Dude even in the WCO there are plenty of intermediate and deep throws.

And it's not like Matt Cassel had all these down-the-field studs in Kansas City.

Alex Smith doesn't throw the ball down the field for one reason and one reason only...he's afraid to.

Alex Smith...throws the ball down the field less than everyone in the NFL save Christian Ponder....that has nothing to do with who's running routes and everything to do with the QB.

Well, I'd be afraid to as well considering he didn't have dick to throw to over the course of his career.

Look, if Smith had Matt Ryan's receiving corp or Rivers in his prime with Vincent Jackson or Larry Fitzgerald or Megatron or Andre Johnson or Sidney Rice and so on and so forth, and he didn't throw downfield, you'd have a mighty fine point.

But the guy played on a ****ing shit team for the first six years of his career with shit coaches. He had a very good 2011 but still, no downfield threat. He had another very good year in 2012 but still, no downfield threat.

So would you rather have an accurate QB that moves the chains and plays within his and the team's means, or would you rather have a reckless gunslinger that loses games because his receivers suck and he wastes opportunities?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, I'd be afraid to as well considering he didn't have dick to throw to over the course of his career.

Look, if Smith had Matt Ryan's receiving corp or Rivers in his prime with Vincent Jackson or Larry Fitzgerald or Megatron or Andre Johnson or Sidney Rice and so on and so forth, and he didn't throw downfield, you'd have a mighty fine point.

But the guy played on a ****ing shit team for the first six years of his career with shit coaches. He had a very good 2011 but still, no downfield threat. He had another very good year in 2012 but still, no downfield threat.

So would you rather have an accurate QB that moves the chains and plays within his and the team's means, or would you rather have a reckless gunslinger that loses games because his receivers suck and he wastes opportunities?

Dude, we're not talking about 20+ yard throws down the field.

He throws less intermediate routes than Matt Cassel.

Than Matt Cassel.

He is completely averse to risk and does not throw the ball into NFL windows unless he absolutely has to.

The types of throws you saw Matt Cassel completing the last four years are going to be the same shit we see from Alex Smith.

He might complete them at a higher percentage...but he is a dink and dunk QB with a noodle arm who does not throw the ball down the field. End of story.

Who he was throwing to doesn't matter...because other QBs with "meh" WRs throw down the field more. Like...Matt...Cassel.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Dude, we're not talking about 20+ yard throws down the field.

He throws less intermediate routes than Matt Cassel.

Than Matt Cassel.

He is completely averse to risk and does not throw the ball into NFL windows unless he absolutely has to.

The types of throws you saw Matt Cassel completing the last four years are going to be the same shit we see from Alex Smith.

He might complete them at a higher percentage...but he is a dink and dunk QB with a noodle arm who does not throw the ball down the field. End of story.

Who he was throwing to doesn't matter...because other QBs with "meh" WRs throw down the field more. Like...Matt...Cassel.

I don't really care.

Using this metric to dismiss him as a Matt Cassel clone is ridiculous.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't really care.

Using this metric to dismiss him as a Matt Cassel clone is ridiculous.

That's only one part of the equation.

He also takes sacks at an absurd rate.

He also has a lacking arm.

He's also a shitbird on third down.

I think that's enough evidence.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Please tell me, to whom was Smith supposed to throw down the field over the course of his career?

And do you know anything about the WCO? There has to be a metric or stat on PFF.

Scary thought:

Reid's WCO has always featured more downfield passing than any other iteration of it. It's not Gruden's system. McNabb and Vick were both aggressive downfield passers.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Scary thought:

Reid's WCO has always featured more downfield passing than any other iteration of it. It's not Gruden's system. McNabb and Vick were both aggressive downfield passers.

And we're going to run it with a QB that's afraid to throw the ball down the field and would rather take a sack then try and make a play.

This should turn out ok.