Chiefs Chiefs reportedly 'fascinated' by Geno Smith - Page 8

Ace Gunner · 03-27-2013, 08:05 AM

The Kansas City Chiefs are "fascinated" by West Virginia Mountaineers quarterback Geno Smith, according to Ian Rapoport.

Smith was terrific at his pro day and solidified his status as a top 10 pick last week, with most experts believing he will be one of the first selections off the board at the 2013 NFL Draft. Our own Dan Kadar has Smith heading to the Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 2 overall in SB Nation's latest mock draft.

Joel Thorman of Arrowhead Pride calls the move a smokescreen and writes, "Is this the worst smokescreen in draft history? Honestly, it might be."

More: Chiefs offseason coverage at Arrowhead Pride
The Chiefs just traded one second-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft and a conditional third-round choice that could become a second in next year's draft as well for quarterback Alex Smith. That's a high price to pay for the team to also consider such a large draft investment in a rookie like Geno Smith.

Smith threw for 98 touchdowns and 21 interceptions in his four-year career at West Virginia.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/2...mith-nfl-draft

RunKC · 03-27-2013, 10:20 AM

Can't wait to see Alex Smith throw the ball way more and be in an attacking style instead of being forced into a game manager role.

keg in kc · 03-27-2013, 10:21 AM

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year. His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run. Which is actually a plus in my opinion. And I think he's already shown enough pocket presence and escapability in college that I'd be surprised to see him struggle with pressure at the next level any more than any other rookie QB would.

Does that mean he's going to step on the field and throw for 4500 yards? No. Of course not. But, while on one hand I'm one of the "be patient" guys when it comes to QB development, I also think we've seen enough success lately from rookies that I don't understand this automatic "he needs a year" crap. He's as ready as anyone coming out, aside, obviously, from Andrew Luck.

And while there's about zero chance he'll be drafted here, this is an unusally good situation for a #1 pick to fall into, with established receivers, an established running game, and what should be at least passable line play. This wouldn't be David Carr going to Houston or anything.

Direckshun · 03-27-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

"Geno, how does it feel being drafted by Kansas City, knowing they just traded for Alex Smith?"

"I feel blessed, to be honest with you. Alex is a great quarterback, and it will be a blessing to be able to learn from him. He can teach me a lot, just having gone through this stuff, too, you know? I mean, he was the first overall pick also, so just having a veteran guy there that can show you the ropes as I transition to the National Football League is going to be really helpful."

And then all of Kansas City JIMPs.

This post is like football viagra.

Direckshun · 03-27-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year. His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run. Which is actually a plus in my opinion. And I think he's already shown enough pocket presence and escapability in college that I'd be surprised to see him struggle with pressure at the next level any more than any other rookie QB would.

Does that mean he's going to step on the field and throw for 4500 yards? No. Of course not. But, while on one hand I'm one of the "be patient" guys when it comes to QB development, I also think we've seen enough success lately from rookies that I don't understand this automatic "he needs a year" crap. He's as ready as anyone coming out, aside, obviously, from Andrew Luck.

And while there's about zero chance he'll be drafted here, this is an unusally good situation for a #1 pick to fall into, with established receivers, an established running game, and what should be at least passable line play. This isn't David Carr going to Houston or anything.

I don't know. He doesn't have a ton of experience in Andy Reid's offense.

There's no crime in letting him marinate in it for a year.

keg in kc · 03-27-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I don't know. He doesn't have a ton of experience in Andy Reid's offense.

There's no crime in letting him marinate in it for a year.

I don't disagree with that, but I also think you have to give him a chance to win the job. You don't just concede his rookie season. Which is what people are doing.

He's not a special case. He doesn't need to be handled with kid gloves, or in any way differently than you'd handle any quarterback with top-10 talent.

RunKC · 03-27-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one.

It's stage 3 on the 5 stages of grief.

Draft day it will be depression then shortly after will be acceptance.

Chief_For_Life58 · 03-27-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I will also add this:

Andy Reid and John Dorsey brought in Alex Smith to "stabilize" the QB position.

Stabilize it. That's their word.

That doesn't scream "this guy will take us to the Super Bowl."

Again, worth remembering.

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CoMoChief · 03-27-2013, 10:25 AM

In all honesty i bet we draft Geno Smith and sit him for 1-2 years while Alex Smith plays out his contract. Otherwise I think the Chiefs would have already re-signed Alex Smith to a longer deal.

Direckshun · 03-27-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't disagree with that, but I also think you have to give him a chance to win the job. You don't just concede his rookie season. Which is what people are doing.

He's not a special case. He doesn't need to be handled with kid gloves, or in any way differently than you'd handle any quarterback with top-10 talent.

I don't disagree.

I don't think any of the Geno backers here have argued that he needs a season.

We're just trying to make the puzzle piece fit with Alex Smith and Chase Daniel.

Marcellus · 03-27-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year.

If this were remotely true then teams would be lining up to trade their draft for Geno like Washington did for RG3.

You are stretching this a loooong ways.

Geno may end up being a franchise type guy but he is nowhere near the prospect RG3 was.

keg in kc · 03-27-2013, 10:27 AM

We need to buy Alex Smith a moped for training camp.

milkman · 03-27-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.

You're a ****ing moron.

Almost every Geno fan would have been nearly as happy with Barkley or Wilson, before his stock started to fall in offseason activities.

You are the butthurt piece of shit that cried because a majority prferred Geno to Barkley.

silver5liter · 03-27-2013, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

In all honesty i bet we draft Geno Smith and sit him for 1-2 years while Alex Smith plays out his contract. Otherwise I think the Chiefs would have already re-signed Alex Smith to a longer deal.

We have no idea that they didn't. Dorsey dodged the question

keg in kc · 03-27-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

If this were remotely true then teams would be lining up to trade their draft for Geno like Washington did for RG3.

You are stretching this a loooong ways.

Geno may end up being a franchise type guy but he is nowhere near the prospect RG3 was.

That would be why I went on to say "His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run."

I believe he's every bit the passing prospect that RG3 was. He is not, however, the athlete that Griffin was. And I've said that for months and months and months.

B14ckmon · 03-27-2013, 10:29 AM

Lol. These smokescreens are going to be the cause of a dozen suicides on draft day by Chiefs fans.

First the Browns take Cambell.

Then the bogus story about coincidentally all three teams who might want Geno all of a sudden want Matt Flynn.

Then an hour later the Chiefs LOVE Geno?

This is a bluff, and a bluff being called. Lots of bullshit going on between multiple teams.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1730389	Can't wait to see Alex Smith throw the ball way more and be in an attacking style instead of being forced into a game manager role. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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03-27-2013, 10:21 AM	#107
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year. His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run. Which is actually a plus in my opinion. And I think he's already shown enough pocket presence and escapability in college that I'd be surprised to see him struggle with pressure at the next level any more than any other rookie QB would. Does that mean he's going to step on the field and throw for 4500 yards? No. Of course not. But, while on one hand I'm one of the "be patient" guys when it comes to QB development, I also think we've seen enough success lately from rookies that I don't understand this automatic "he needs a year" crap. He's as ready as anyone coming out, aside, obviously, from Andrew Luck. And while there's about zero chance he'll be drafted here, this is an unusally good situation for a #1 pick to fall into, with established receivers, an established running game, and what should be at least passable line play. This wouldn't be David Carr going to Houston or anything.
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B14ckmon Jagwire Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Casino cash: $10004900	Lol. These smokescreens are going to be the cause of a dozen suicides on draft day by Chiefs fans. First the Browns take Cambell. Then the bogus story about coincidentally all three teams who might want Geno all of a sudden want Matt Flynn. Then an hour later the Chiefs LOVE Geno? This is a bluff, and a bluff being called. Lots of bullshit going on between multiple teams. __________________ Luke Joeckel - Chiefs LT of the Future!
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